Turning - Paladin & Cleric levels ... do they Stack?


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Liberty's Edge

I seem to recal reading somewhere that Paladin levels stack with Cleric levels when it comes to Turning, but I can't find anything about it in the rule books.

Does anyone know? Can you give me a page number so I can see it?

I seems like the levels should stack in some way, with the obvious understanding that Paladins Turn at a lower power level.

Thanks!

Liberty's Edge

Marc Radle 81 wrote:

I seem to recal reading somewhere that Paladin levels stack with Cleric levels when it comes to Turning, but I can't find anything about it in the rule books.

Does anyone know? Can you give me a page number so I can see it?

I seems like the levels should stack in some way, with the obvious understanding that Paladins Turn at a lower power level.

Thanks!

I don't see why they wouldn't. Paladins simply turn as a Cleric 3 levels lower. 7th level Paladins turn as if they were 4th level Clerics.

There wouldn't be any benefit gained to turning unless your Domains you get from being a Cleric specifically grant you a benefit, and then you're still turning 3 levels lower than your effective character level.

In other words a character that is a Paladin 10 has the same turning ability as a character who is Paladin 5/Cleric 5. They both turn as a 7th level Cleric(only two of those Paladin levels grant Turning).

The only benefit I can think of would be to take Paladin at first level, then Cleric every level after that. You then essentially have a cleric with access to all Martial Weapons, *Detect Evil at will, and *Smite Evil once per day. You're also a level behind your development as a Cleric during those early levels, which can be hazardous.

*These are kinda nice to have every now and then, but you still have to stay Lawful Good to make use of them.

Liberty's Edge

Good points - this is pretty much how I see it as well. What I'm wonderingb though is if there is any official word either way on the subject? Maybe a Sage Advice? Maybe it's in the DMG, Complete Devine etc and I just haven't found it?

It seems like a fairly common situation to NOT be addressed officialy in the game rules, doesn't it???


d20srd.org wrote:
In the special case of turning undead, both clerics and experienced paladins have the same ability. If the character’s paladin level is 4th or higher, her effective turning level is her cleric level plus her paladin level minus 3.

Hope that helps! :)

PS: It's from the section on multiclassed characters, if you want to see for yourself! http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/multiclass.htm

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