Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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Yes, but once you have access to Plane Shift and Teleport there really isn't anything stopping you getting stuff out.
Re: The body that I am lugging around, I intend to take it back to our starting point, then, once back in the real world, Sending the guy who was after her, informing him as to what happened, and asking whether he wants the body. If he does, I would be going to the Count's place, and trying to find a way to open a Gate to send the body back to Golarion.
Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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Note: I am not trying to flood the Golarion market with all the Dreamlands loot; it's just an observation about how it would be possible, if one was so inclined.
| GM Mort |
Yes I am pretty sure it is possible(RAW). But also that it wasn't intended. If you want bodies to be sent out, that's fine.
Also I think I really should get over to my Hearthstone dailies and POE. We can continue tomorrow =D
| GM Mort |
Thing to note: If you're going to skip content the way you did by magic, there will be delays since it was my expectation you would not be finishing the book that fast, and thus I do not have the time to prepare for the next book.
Book 4 has been prepped, but I don't usually stay more then a book ahead of the players because too far ahead and I start forgetting what I prepped earlier.
Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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Don't worry - I won't go out of my way to do it.
That said, in this particular instance, it made sense; a quick in-and-out, rather than a long slog through the entire staff.
Rest assured, when attacking a cult base, or a dungeon warren (especially one back on Golarion), I will be meticulously methodical about leaving no stone unturned ;-)
| GM Mort |
I'm going to make a ruling here - since there are effects on the dialogue. Vincent was last seen using the ring of sustenance in book 2(to copy extracts) and no attempts were made to reclaim it, nor was it listed as part of your equipment - so it was lost with him when he disappeared into the forest.
Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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That's fine - I haven't been sleeping, after all.
Keep Watch has been the mainstay for me :-)
| GM Mort |
If I am slow, I apologize but I had to type out everything on phone!
My phone typing skills are leet, but still ><
| GM Mort |
I am pushing as much as I can go and still trying to maintain accuracy throughout.
| GM Mort |
Nightgaunt nauseated lasts 1 round and since I've taken another round, the nauseated condition has worn out.
Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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Yes, the thing that has been really hurting here is the action economy - with (at the beginning) 11 opponents, one of them was bound to get lucky sooner rather than later...
Mind you, it would be ironic if a random encounter took us out :-P
| GM Mort |
You don't die for real in the Dreamlands,which is I suppose, some form of relief.
Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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I don't, but the Yellow King certainly will... and he is the only one who knows where we are going.
Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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@GM Mort: the 'him' I referred to was Howard ;-)
(That's why I explicitly stated which border I was going after.)
| GM Mort |
Worst case - find his body and speak with the dead...
Ah OK so unbordered is dead.
Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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Claude is still conscious, but won't be next round (he is on 9 hit points).
Find a body...? Three hours into trackless desert...?
Also, I can't use Speak With Dead; no divine casters here ;-)
Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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Heh. A better question would be... will hunting 'wild' nightgaunts continue to attack suicidally, despite well over half their numbers being eviscerated...?
;-)
| GM Mort |
Contact other plane? Tell Nestor and his buddies you need corpse retrieval services for 5PP?
Sorry if I sound flippant.
Claude still has his attacks if you want to use them.
Oh OK I see. I'll give you a hint. You could have broken grapple over you and Claude any time you wanted to using shift from wizard teleportation school.
Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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Claude is nauseated, isn't he?
Heh. I didn't realise that we were all part of the Pathfinder Society.
I should be keeping track of my Prestige ;-)
Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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No - I still have to make a concentration check to use Shift, and it would be against 10 + CMB + effective spell level... which is DC 33.
Theoretically possible, I suppose, but I would need an 18 or higher.
Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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Also, since it is as per Dimension Door, it would mean that I couldn't take any AoOs when they tried to grapple me again, so I would just end up in the same boat.
| GM Mort |
Shift (Su): At 1st level, you can teleport to a nearby space as a swift action as if using dimension door. This movement does not provoke an attack of opportunity.
Su does not require concentration checks?
Wasn't that every pathfinder get out of grapple free card?
Supernatural abilities are magical but not spell-like. Supernatural abilities are not subject to spell resistance and do not function in areas where magic is suppressed or negated (such as an antimagic field). A supernatural ability’s effect cannot be dispelled and is not subject to counterspells
A grappled character who attempts to cast a spell or use a spell-like ability must make a concentration check (DC 10 + grappler’s CMB + spell level), or lose the spell. Grappled creatures cannot make attacks of opportunity.
No one said no Su...
| GM Mort |
And strangely, you can take AOOs after Ddoor
But maybe I got grappled too many times. Eh.
Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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Huh. I hadn't noticed that it was Su. Oh well!
In that case, I will definitely use it to break the grapples ;-)
Re: AoOs after Dimension Door, I had always thought that the answer was no, because free actions are still actions...?
| GM Mort |
Debatable with regards to AOOs. Though it seems general consensus is that AOOs are not an action, but again I would probably say you can't take AOOs while dazed...eh..thats getting weird. Really weird.
But at least you can clear grappled condition while you buy time to kill the lot of them.
| GM Mort |
But yes, this was an interesting discussion to have. Oooh I spotted something that you didn't! *Smug kitty*
Though that might lead to another debate on if you use shift, do you lose your suit, which I would say no, based on:
"Neither the synthesist nor his eidolon can be targeted separately, as they are fused into one creature."
Anyway that's fine. Now we have that out of the air, we can get nightgaunts moving off.
I just wanted to let you know about it for future knowledge next time.
| GM Mort |
I think they're shifting the style towards 5e
Not sure if I'm gonna like it.
Scientific curiosity makes me wonder if I want to get the rules and playtest, but I can't run more then one game at one go, so that's that.
Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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@Mort: Did you see (on the Paizo Blog) that they are 'rebooting' Pathfinder?
2nd Edition comes out in 2019...
Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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Yes, yes you did :-P
I noticed that there seemed to be a distinctly '5E' flavor to the blog post, as well, but I will keep an open mind until after I have actually seen the playtest material; some of the 5E stuff actually isn't that bad (I do play some 5E, after all; the thing I dislike about AL is the unlimited replay of scenarios).
| GM Mort |
I looked and the 5e spellbooks and threw my paws up in despair. I have been playing martial type characters ever since. The only spells I cast are buffs or heals or flat damage. (Bless, healing word, sacred flame)
5e is supposed to be more "let your imagination loose", but I still do not understand how can enemies fail to walk out of a fog cloud when they're in one. Or that you can shoot enemies in a fog cloud due to their vague outlines but they can't shoot you back nor would they move out of the fog cloud to shoot you.
If something so nebulous passes for crowd control in 5e, I'd rather not touch magic at all. To me the rules must be listed out and distinct. Uncertainty and GM fiat is what I fear most.
If things are fuzzy, I rather not touch them at all. As a result, I probably have my imagination shackled as compared to most.
I don't really know how much imagination I really have at the end of the day.
Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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Yes, well, spellcasting in general is (relatively) disappointing in 5E - all of my PCs have either been archers, or ranged blasters (i.e. Warlocks).
I hope that 2nd Ed doesn't end-up like that.
If they took the chargen/skills from 5E, and grafted the (current) spellcasting system onto it, that would make me a happy man :-)
| GM Mort |
I am not dealing with the devil, the aberration or God knows which entity in the universe for my magic powers. Aka, I cannot play warlock.
5e seems to be how much DPR you can throw out and I'm never into DPR contests. Of course there's a nice nova involving 2 level dip in tempest cleric for channel divinity and taking the rest wizard for chromatic orb. Then you use your channel divinity for max lightning damage for your chromatic orb. Bonus points if you're partnered with a grave cleric who does paths to the grave channel divinity to make the target vulnerable to lightning damage.
Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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Eh.
It depends.
Having Cthulhu as your patron gave you Telepathy, which you could use for *all* sorts of shenanigans!
With the 'Devil', I flavored it as being that I was one of the 666 living seals that kept his essence contained and quiescent, and as I gained power, I was draining off and diffusing more of that essence.
The 'Undead' patron, on the other hand, had potential - I ran a half-elf who had bound himself to that patron, so that he could outlive his Elven father (since you (eventually) age at 10% normal rate, his 'natural' lifespan would be more than his father's), whom he resented.
| GM Mort |
Of course you would freaking have Cthulhu as your patron. *slaps paw against forehead* (aka pawpalm)
But no, I do not wish to do icky squeaky things to my soul.
Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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*whistles innocently*
Heh.
I am more than a little amused that that had not already occurred to you, as a possibility ;-)
| GM Mort |
Can’t you see I’m trying to stay away from the ebul forces of the universe? I want my fluffiness back!
On another side note – playing cultist type characters can also cause group tension.
I was being my dubiously creepy self
And got called out for a witch hunt
Now I don’t go around judging other people’s characters – since it’s really player freedom of choice – which I am loathe to touch, so why are people judging me? I tell you I was damn tempted to get my eidolon to full attack him where he stood for his impertinence. But I restrained myself out of consideration of the GM who gets to sort out the mess.
Also you may not have much incentive to do…you know what normal adventurers are doing/cooperate with the party.
I know I am smarter and cheesier then the average pathfinder. That means I must not use my cheese, like a schoolyard bully, to get what I want. With great power cheese comes great responsibility. And in my case, with great power cheese comes great insanity. Touching the forbidden cheese turns me into something I don't care for.
Howard Phillips Lovecraft
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Heh. With great cheese, comes great responsibility...? ;-)
FYI, I am going out to lunch now, so my reply to your next post may be delayed.
| GM Mort |
Thanks for telling me on your lunch.
OK I think we better start setting some guidelines on posting timings.
For weekdays:
I will not check this thread from 8 pm to 11pm at GMT+8. For Tuesday nights, 7pm,because out at movies.
So I have the time to do my hearthstone dailies and do some path of exile. I will check before I go to bed(past 11pm), so you can catch up with a post in the morning.
Lunch time from 11.45-1.30 is usually a no - no for me.
Otherwise I can post while at work, and will inform you when possible if work makes me busy, but will unlikely be able to tell you how long it'll take to unbusy myself.
Weekends are a totally different story.
| GM Mort |
Thank you =) I'm actually fairly good at this kind of thing, don't you think? =)