Having the same feat more than once


Rules Questions


Hi all!

So, a situation has come up on a game I am currently running.

A player started the game as a Bolt Ace and took Point Blank Shot as a first level feat.

Later on, he is planning to multiclass to Marksman (a ranged psionic class from Dreamscarred Press) that gives him Point Blank Shot a bonus feat.

So, what's up with that? Is going to have the same feat twice for no benefit? Can he retrain the feat he took on lvl 1 when he gets it again?

RAW answers greatly apreciated!


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In this case, the bonus feat is redundant, and the PC gets no benefit for gaining a bonus feat that he already has.

If you're the GM and want to be nice, you could let him substitute a different bonus feat. But that's entirely your call as the GM; you're not required to be nice under RAW.

(If I were the GM, I'd allow taking a different, related feat.)


That said if your GM is a real stickler for RAW and has a reason to dislike his players, he is within his rights to say that Marksman (probably) lacks the language that some other bonus feats have that let the player swap it for any combat feat/similar if they already have it and ergo he gets nothing since PBS doesn't have language indicating you can take it twice.

That said, most GMs tend to not hate their players enough to deny them an "any combat feat if already acquired" style swap, but again, this is GM bone throwing, not RAW.


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Now if he chose PBS as his first level then the simple route by RAW would be to let him retrain the feat.

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