Thanks for telling us.
Can I bot Mira if we have not heard from the player?
If someone can enlarge Sunreturn, he can use a longspear to make a 20ft radius dangerous for foes to move in. And there can't be that much ceiling clearance for a dragon to fly over us.
Lenna is going to ride the dragon like a horse.
I'm thinking bless, barkskin, and weapons against evil. The latter would mean all of our weapons can punch through evil creature's DR of up to 5.
Not sure if we have enough time to buff round/level buffs before they run out. I guess we save them for last.
Worth trying to time it, aye.
Yeah. Not sure if I want to add silence to the pre-combat buffs, It is good vs casters but bad for teamwork since our group cannot hear her dance while she is invisible.
Mira's got an enlarge person scroll she can use on Sunreturn if need be.
The nice thing about silence is that you can cast it on a small object and block the effect whenever you want just by covering the object with your hand.
Cover blocks emanation?
Yep!
A burst spell affects whatever it catches in its area, including creatures that you can't see. It can't affect creatures with total cover from its point of origin (in other words, its effects don't extend around corners). The default shape for a burst effect is a sphere, but some burst spells are specifically described as cone-shaped. A burst's area defines how far from the point of origin the spell's effect extends.
An emanation spell functions like a burst spell, except that the effect continues to radiate from the point of origin for the duration of the spell. Most emanations are cones or spheres.
Oh, cool.
Anyways, let's plan on pre-combat buff and our attack before we go in.
Accelerate sounds amazing, thanks!
So we should be able to get barksin, bless, and bull's strength up from a good distance, and maybe invisibility for Lenna.
Then right before going in we can cast accelerate, enlarge person, long arm, weapons again evil, and possibly silence if time permits.
Lenna's got a scroll for that.
For the plan, this is a rough draft on I see the battle flows.
Before combat: Lenna goes in invisible and silenced (wearing an object with silence) scouting behind a cover. If casters and dragon about to look at her direction, she retreats and inform party information about the room.
Pre-combat buffs/tactics: Over Minute spells (enlarge person, long arm, barkskin, bless, invisibility, bull strength, featherfall x2 (on Lenna & anyone who wants to ride on dragon, Silence x1 (Sunreturn's object)) then 1 minute or lesser spells (expedition retreat, weapon against evil, accelerate (on Mira)). Hands over object laced with silence to Mira
Combat: Prioritize casters and dragon first. During our turn, Mira and Sunreturn "switch" silence off to let Lenna buff them or relay message to them. Roles would be like this:
Lenna: Annoy the heck out of the dragon by being on its back and attempt to ride it.
Mira: Target casters or dragon first
Sunreturn: Draw Fire and AoO
Zoltan: Target casters with his magic
I forgot to mention, but here are the Oracle of Wood abilities that Sunreturn will also use in the long duration pre-combat buffing stage. Wood Armour is hours-long duration, Wooden Weapon is 5 minutes. Bolded sections for emphasis.
Wood Armour (Su): You can conjure wooden armor around yourself, which grants you a +4 armor bonus. At 7th level, and every four levels thereafter, this bonus increases by +2. At 13th level, this armor grants you DR 5/slashing. You can use this armor for 1 hour per day per oracle level. This duration does not need to be consecutive, but it must be spent in 1-hour increments. The armor vanishes if you remove it.
Wooden Weapon (Su): You can create a wooden club, quarterstaff, longspear, shortspear, or spear that lasts for 1 minute for every oracle level you possess. This weapon is appropriate for your size. You are considered proficient with the weapon. The weapon disappears after 1 round if it leaves your grasp. At 3rd level, the weapon is considered masterwork. At 7th level, 15th level, and 19th level, the weapon gains a +1 enhancement bonus. At 11th level, the weapon gains the keen weapon property (or the equivalent increase to its critical threat range, if it is a bludgeoning weapon). You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Charisma modifier.
Wow, that is even better than barkskin. I think Sunreturn is good armor-wise. Barkskin should go to Mira. And btw, is Sunreturn's AC 16 or 19? Same with Mira and Zoltan. I thought all of us are wearing ring of protection +3. You guys forgot to update the header?
Well, Sunreturn doesn't wear armour normally, preferring to summon it as necessary. So 16 is his base with the ring [10 +1 Dex +2 Natural +3 Deflection]
With those buffs, it will be 22 [+4 armour + 2 additional natural armour (barkskin explicitly stacks with existing)]
You guys have no idea what the size of this dragon is, fyi. So for all you know, it's a pseudodragon who can fit through these tunnels no problem. XD Alright, let me know when you're ready to rock.
It can't be pseudodragon when it has a breath weapon.
You'd think so, wouldn't you? ;) He could have a custom item that gives him the effects of the dragon's breath spell once a day. But you're right for all practical purposes. Anyhow, that wasn't my point.
Point. Well, we need to find out when Lenna scouts, wouldn't we? :D
Anyways, we will be waiting for Zoltan to pitch in to see if he agree or wants to make changes to THE plan.
Also, Lenna will be giving up her summon monster scroll to Zoltan. I forgot she had her entire spell list replaced by summon nature line when I applied this archetype to her.
I'd rather be over-prepared than overconfident when a dragon is involved. ;)
Seconded. It would have been bad if we went in and get affected by frightful presence which Lenna with her piddly roll does not even know IC. :p
Back in town and catching up. Plan seems fine to me.
I'm good to go.
Sure. Lenna, ready to scout it out for us?
Yeah. She will invisible herself via scroll and wear an object of silence. When she scouts, she takes 10 on perception for a check of 25 and hides behind a cover, taking 10 on stealth for a total check of 46. She will take a peek at the formation and layout and report back.
Good stuff!
We are entering from the middle room, right?
Want invisibility for Mira?
Probably not worth the spell slot - she's not trained in Stealth, she'll be attacking soon enough, and before then if she's tanking hits that means she's doing her job. It's mostly been useful for avoiding attacks of opportunity, and she should be able to fly over those now.
Sunreturn shouldn't need invisibility either. I'm fine with planned buffs.
No knowledge Arcana anyhow. ;)
But can we sneak attack them though?
Good question. With invisibility, I'd be willing to try.
Not sure if it helps Mira in rage to get close to full attack the casters before the initiative. It would be great if it can.
If you have the spells for it, sure, but I'm just worried about how much more we might be doing today.
We will be resting anyways due to Mira running out of rage.
Also, Lenna made a knowledge check. We need to know if we gain any info about the dragon before we make our next moves. This includes our buffs decision, formation, etc.
This!
Sorry didn't see the check for some reason. Lenna doesn't have any extra info on dragons. They can bite and fly!
Guess its up to Zoltan.
Me?!?!
Pre-combat Buffs:
Lenna: Silence (if Sunreturn need), Featherfall, Expeditious Retreat on self, Accelerate on Mira.
Sunreturn: Barkskin, Wooden Armour, Wooden Weapon, Bless, Agathion's Spirit (not sure if he needs it), Weapon of Evil
Zoltan: See Invisibility, Enlarge Person, Bull's Strength
Mira: Longarm (via scroll or slot), Expeditious Retreat
That what I think we proposed. Any changes? Does anyone needs invisibility?
If we're sneaking in, Sunreturn will need invisibility. Not silence as that would impede his own casting if he needs it.
Otherwise, looks good!
Silence is also helpful if they are using other senses or spells to negate our invisibility. And we can clutch it and ball our hand during our turns if we don't want it.
Good point. In that case, I'd like both silence and invisibility.
Then sure, let's go for the stealth. Mira can't really carry a silence object if she's changing shape, so she'll just try to stay near someone who is while we're approaching.
Not sure if vanish is enough.
How would you guys feel about setting an IRL limit to this planning stage, seeing as how it's already been quite a few days and I don't want our momentum to stall? Say until 5 pm on October 2nd Eastern US time? Then I'll assume you head in according to the order you describe and with whatever prebuffs you've figured out by then.
Sounds good to me.
If I'm unavailable to post tonight, feel free to have an enlarged Sunreturn march into poking range.