Brawlers flurry and weapon size?

[Melkiador]

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Brawler’s Flurry (Ex): Starting at 2nd level, a brawler can make a brawler’s flurry as a full-attack action. When doing so, a brawler has the Two-Weapon Fighting feat when attacking with any combination of unarmed strikes, weapons from the close fighter weapon group, or weapons with the “monk” special feature. She does not need to use two different weapons to use this ability.

A brawler applies her full Strength modifier to her damage rolls for all attacks made with brawler’s flurry, whether the attacks are made with an off-hand weapon or a weapon wielded in both hands. A brawler can substitute disarm, sunder, and trip combat maneuvers for unarmed attacks as part of brawler’s f lurry. A brawler with natural weapons can’t use such weapons as part of brawler’s flurry, nor can she make natural weapon attacks in addition to her brawler’s flurry attacks.

At 8th level, the brawler gains use of the Improved Two- Weapon Fighting feat when using brawler’s flurry. At 15th level, she gains use of the Greater Two-Weapon Fighting feat when using brawler’s flurry.

If a brawler flurries with a non-light weapon, do they take penalties for the off hand weapon not being light? Does this mean that a brawler can't two handed flurry without taking the extra penalties?

[Kazaan]

You know... it doesn't specify the penalties you take like Monk's FoB does. So yes, by RAW, if a Brawler flurries with anything other than a light weapon for the off-hand attacks, they take -4/-4 rather than -2/-2, unlike a Monk. So a Brawler flurrying with a 2-h weapon is at -4/-4. Might be an oversight, might not. I guess we should start a FAQ request.

[Melkiador]

To further complicate matters, the flurry doesn't have to be all with one weapon. So what happens when you have a flurry of 5 attacks. You use a one handed weapon for 4 of them and a light weapon for the 5th? So your offhand weapon would be both light and one handed in that combat round.

[Cap. Darling]

No they dont.
If they flurry with just one weapon there is no extra penalty.
It is possible to read all sort of stuff out of all ki d of different rules but this one is pretty clear. IMOP.

[Kazaan]

We're all pretty sure we know what they intended; the problem is that it isn't written that way, neither explicitly nor implicitly. FoB lists out a specific -2 to all attacks and lays out a sequence of attack growth based on both BAB and virtual TWF feats. Brawler's Flurry, however, is written significantly different due in part to the Brawler already having full BAB (compared to Monk only getting full-BAB equivalent during Flurry). They should have included a clause that you take -2/-2 penalties as if fighting with a light off-hand regardless of what weapon you use. It's not really a debate at this point, more a matter of FAQing it to bring the oversight to their attention so they can correct it.