List of Material with different rules in different sources

[Pirate Rob]

Hi everybody, currently the Additional Resources has multiple copies of the same item/spell/etc listed as legal from different sources.

The problem is that sometimes they don't have the same rules. To really confuse things, sometimes they are considered independent (Dueling), while other times they are not (Brass Knuckles)

While this thread won't fix any short term problems regarding which is legal, it will allow the PFS staff to eventually fix additional resources.

Please don't let this thead bog down into arguments over what is what, but instead just provide a list of the problems. The book source is absolutely necessary, and page number is probably helpful as well.

[Pirate Rob]

Brass Knuckles
Ultimate Equipment p17 - Monks don't get unarmed damage.
Adventurer's Armory p2 - Monks don't get unarmed damage.
Advanced Player's Guide - Monks do get unarmed damage.

[Pirate Rob]

Dueling (Weapon Enhancement)

Pathfinder Society Field Guide pg. 50 - CMB Luck Bonus
Ultimate Equipment pg. 141 - Initiative/Disarm/Feint Bonus
Advanced Player's Guide pg. 1 - Initiative/Disarm/Feint Bonus

[Dragnmoon]

Pirate Rob wrote:

Dueling (Weapon Enhancement)

Pathfinder Society Field Guide pg. 50 - CMB Luck Bonus
Ultimate Equipment pg. 141 - Initiative/Disarm/Feint Bonus
Advanced Player's Guide pg. 1 - Initiative/Disarm/Feint Bonus

Sorry for the clutter, this one is actually 2 separate abilities with the same name, not a change in a rule.

Here is a link talking about that.

[Tarma]

I don't know if this is the intent of the thread, but the celestial shield is listed as illegal in Ultimate Equipment but legal in the Advanced Race Guide.

[Fromper]

How about different rules in the same source?

Mithral Shirt vs Mithral Chain Shirt - Don't have page numbers, since I'm looking at the PRD and don't have the book in front of me at the moment:

• Core Rulebook, Equipment Chapter - Chain Shirt weighs 25 lbs, and making an item mithral reduces item weights in half, resulting in 12.5 lb weight
  
• Core Rulebook, Magic Item chapter - Despite being non-magic, this item is listed there with exactly the same price and stats as the Equipment chapter, except with a 10 lb weight.
  

[Nefreet]

Mithral shields.

Making any shield out of Mithral, using the Core Rulebook, costs +1000gp.

Making any shield out of Mithral, using Ultimate Equipment, costs +1500gp.

[Pirate Rob]

Dragnmoon wrote:

Pirate Rob wrote:

Dueling (Weapon Enhancement)

Pathfinder Society Field Guide pg. 50 - CMB Luck Bonus
Ultimate Equipment pg. 141 - Initiative/Disarm/Feint Bonus
Advanced Player's Guide pg. 1 - Initiative/Disarm/Feint Bonus

Sorry for the clutter, this one is actually 2 separate abilities with the same name, not a change in a rule.

Here is a link talking about that.

I totally agree it's 2 separate abilities, one of the problems is at the moment there's no good way to tell which is which.

[Chris Mortika]

Are we looking to track class features, archetypes, etc? Or just equipment and spells?

[BigNorseWolf]

As long as the archetypes are for different classes there shouldn't be any confusion.

Required OOTS comic

[EvilMinion]

Scorpion Whip? (between Legacy of Fire, Adventurer's Armory and Ultimate Equipment I've no idea how this thing is supposed to work)

[Pirate Rob]

I'm happy to have everything that's an issue.

[GreySector]

Klar

Varisia, Birthplace of Legends pg. 14
Ultimate Equipment pg. 9
Curse of the Crimson Throne Player's Guide pg. 13
Rise of the Runelords Player's Guide pg. 11
Inner Sea World Guide pg. 291
Adventurer's Armory pg. 18

Not currently a legal source:

Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting pg. 211

[Dragnmoon]

here you go.

Golarion Day: Subdomains for Everyone! Vs. Inner Sea Gods:

The 12 following gods subdomians are different in Inner Sea Gods compared to the above blog:

Groetus
Hanspur
Gogunta
Socothbenoth
Ragadahn
Ayrzul
Hshurha
Kelizandri
Ymeri
Korada
Ragathiel
Sinashakti

Here is the list of differences

Spoiler:

Blog Subdomains

Groetus: Catastrophe, Insanity, Loss, Night, Protean, Stars
Hanspur: Exploration, Murder, Protean, Trade
Gogunta: Demon, Murder, Undead, Oceans
Socothbenoth: Demon, Exploration, Trade, Lust
Ragadahn: Ancestors*, Dragon, Oceans, Saurian
Ayrzul: Caves, Metal
Hshurha: Clouds, Wind
Kelizandri: Ice, Oceans
Ymeri: Ash, Smoke
Korada: Agathion, Purity, Restoration, Resurrection
Ragathiel: Archon, Leadership, Martyr, Rage
Sinashakti: Azata, Exploration, Fate, Trade

Inner Sea Gods Subdomains

Groetus: Catastrophe, Entropy, Insanity, Loss, Night, Stars
Hanspur: Exploration, Murder, Rivers, Trade
Gogunta: Demon, Murder, Rivers, Undead
Socothbenoth: Demon, Exploration, Love, Lust
Ragadahn: Ancestors*, Dragon, Oceans, Venom
Ayrzul: Caves, Fear, Ferocity, Metal
Hshurha: Clouds, Fear, Storms, Wind
Kelizandri: Catastrophe, Exploration, Fear, Oceans
Ymeri: Ash, Catastrophe, Fear, Tactics
Korada: Agathion, Defense, Divine, Restoration
Ragathiel: Archon, Judgement, Martyr, Rage
Sinashakti: Azata, Exploration, Fate, Friendship

[Blub Blub]

Eek! I wasn't aware that Kelizandri's subdomains changed. There goes my Fire and Ice character =(

[Horselord]

The Celestial Shield is legal in PFS if you have the Advanced Race Guide (under Aasimar), but banned if you use Ultimate Equipment?