Matthew Morris
RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8
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The only possible spoiler we have for the moment is Whedon talking about two new characters who are siblings. So everybody suppose it is Scarlet witch and Quicksilver.
I'd like to see Summer Glau as Wanda, or Eva Green!
Hmm, Wiccan and Speed? (Aside, I'd rather see Morena Baccarin as Wanda)
| Kalshane |
Most of my familiarity with Scarlet Witch comes from X-Men: Evolution, and I could easily see Summer Glau playing that angry/slightly unhinged version of the character.
My issue with Quicksilver (and all speedsters, really) is how he can't just automatically win almost any fight. You've got someone who can move faster than you can see, let alone react to. How do you even stop them?
There were already complaints regarding the first movie about the mehumes like Widow and Hawkeye being outclassed by the supers. I don't see how adding a speedster and a powerful mutant/sorceress to the mix is going to help that.
Not saying I'm against their inclusion, if Joss can make it work, it will be great. I'm just skeptical.
Hama
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Most of my familiarity with Scarlet Witch comes from X-Men: Evolution, and I could easily see Summer Glau playing that angry/slightly unhinged version of the character.
My issue with Quicksilver (and all speedsters, really) is how he can't just automatically win almost any fight. You've got someone who can move faster than you can see, let alone react to. How do you even stop them?
Many ways. One being guessing where they will be and punching there in a timely manner. Their speed will hurt them too.
There were already complaints regarding the first movie about the mehumes like Widow and Hawkeye being outclassed by the supers. I don't see how adding a speedster and a powerful mutant/sorceress to the mix is going to help that.
They are outclassed. They are humans. Compared to a raging, indestructible force of nature, a literal god of thunder, a super soldier and a man flying around in a suit of armor that packs more punch then an armored battalion, how can a woman with martial arts training and a guy with a fancy bow even compare?
Matthew Morris
RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8
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@Hama
Only if they don't have the reflexes/thought processes to keep up. Peter David really played with that in X-Factor, even coining Pietro Maxmimoff Syndrome. Now Jarvis (and face it, maybe Cap*) could tag him, Thor could call the lightning, etc. It also depends on how high his power level is. Even in the comics he's 'only' super sonic, not Wally West speeds.
Oooh, just thought of another super hero sibling set that Marvel *might* own the rights to. Auora/Northstar.
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Mazra
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Actually I thought Black Widow and Hawkeye held up well with the other supers in the Avengers. Whedon did a good job of keeping them included throughout the movie. Their skill sets though lesser were none the less important to the team's success.
You are always going to have degrees of supers; the constant debate of which super is more super. I would give Thor and The Hulk a slight edge over Iron Man. And all three an edge over Captain America. Then Hawkeye a slight edge over Black Widow. The real debate is between Thor or The Hulk. I would give it to the Hulk.
The Avengers movie, maybe more so than any ensemble cast like it, did a masterful job of showing the value and importance of each team member.
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I have to say that I was impressed at how well the first movie used Black Widow and Hawkeye, as well as Captain America. They may not have had the raw powers the others had, but they were with shown a high degree of intelligence and a remarkably versatile, but at the same time completely human, skill set that ensured that they had a place on the team. To me, they also helped a great deal in grounding the movie, keeping the plot from going straight into typical comic bookish, truly outlandish territory. Whatever they do with the sequel, I truly hope they keep that aspect.
| sunshadow21 |
Indeed, each character had a clear, distinct, and useful role, regardless of what that role was and whether or not that character was one of the headlining superheroes. To me, that was the biggest distinction I saw between it and all other superhero movies I've seen previews of, and a major part of why I actually enjoyed the movie when I really wasn't expecting to.
| Kalshane |
Oh, I think the first movie did a great job of giving everyone something to do and moments to shine. I've just seen a lot of grousing elsewhere about "Why are they even there?" re: Natasha and Clint (funnily enough, I seem to recall Clint raising a similar question to Natasha in The Ultimates comics) and I can't imagine adding two more very powerful characters is going to help that.
| Bill Dunn |
Actually, if they were doing founding members, the lineup would have been Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, Hulk, Ant Man and Wasp.
As Terquem pointed out (ninja'ed me), no Cap until issue 4. But a very classic lineup is the 4 person team of Captain America, Hawkeye, Quicksilver, and the Scarlet Witch. That's pretty much the next whole line-up change after the originals when Thor, Iron Man, Ant Man, and Wasp are all leaving the Avengers (for the first of numerous times) to do other things. So I can certainly see adding Pietro and Wanda at some point in the franchise.
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Oh, I think the first movie did a great job of giving everyone something to do and moments to shine. I've just seen a lot of grousing elsewhere about "Why are they even there?" re: Natasha and Clint (funnily enough, I seem to recall Clint raising a similar question to Natasha in The Ultimates comics) and I can't imagine adding two more very powerful characters is going to help that.
Whedon has a good solid history of doing ensembles well, so I wouldn't be too worried on that end. I would worry more about adding 2 characters in general, due to limited available screen time to fit everyone in, then the details of the characters being added.
Benchak the Nightstalker
RPG Superstar 2010 Top 8
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Avengers: EMH was great. Watching through the second season with my son now. A shame it was cancelled.
Agreed, on both counts!
I've never been a huge Wasp fan, but she was pretty B-A in that show. I'd be more excited to see her and Ant Man in the next Avengers movie than I'd be to see Scarlet Witch and/or Quicksilver.
| Stiehl9s |
The only possible spoiler we have for the moment is Whedon talking about two new characters who are siblings. So everybody suppose it is Scarlet witch and Quicksilver.
I'd like to see Summer Glau as Wanda, or Eva Green!
No need to suppose. I heard an interview with Whedon on Geek Time (Howard 101 on Sirius/XM) and he confirmed that it will be Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. He also said this is the only thing he is allowed to reveal for now.