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babau
dretch
glabrezu
hezrou
nabasu
nalfeshnee
quasit
shadow demon
succubus
vrock
barbed devil
bearded devil
horned devil
lemure
pit fiend
devourer
doppelganger
ettercap
gargoyles
ghoul
girallon
green hag
(harpy has talons)
lizardfolk
mephits
night hag
owlbear
rakshasa
sahuagin
sea hag
skeleton
skum
troglodyte
troll
vegepygmy
xill
xorn (tripedal)
yeti

Cheapy |

Sure.
Basically, I'm trying to find any bipedal creature from it that has claws on its feet, rather than talons. There was a question to James about claws on the feet of PCs, and he said that didn't work since those would be talons. Just trying to get more information on that one, as I suspect that the talons / claw distinction may have been lost on some people.

Cheapy |

I'm still going through the list, but thanks Adam! The Harpy and especially the Vrock wonderfully show off the distinction between claws and talons. Although there do appear to be some oddities, like the Skum and Trogdolyte.
The reason I specified B1 was that if there was confusion in players / freelancers / authors, B1 would be the "go-to" for setting precedents.

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Yep, the harpy is the best example of this. She has her morningstar attack AND her two talons.
A weird example is that the giant eagle is listed as having claw attacks instead of talons (like the regular eagle has). I'm pretty sure the giant eagle is incorrect in its listing of talons vs. claws, but since it doesn't have arms it's not that confusing.

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Not from the Bestiary - a Summoner's eidolon allows 1 pair of claws to be put on feet. Although they don't have a 'talon evolution' so it might be a simplification of handling what is basically the same attack.
I believe that this is an error with the Eidolon. I believe the developers intended to only let Quadrupeds have claws on their feet, since all Quadrupeds have are feet, but they mistakenly opened it up to Bipeds as well.

Matrix Dragon |

Not from the Bestiary - a Summoner's eidolon allows 1 pair of claws to be put on feet. Although they don't have a 'talon evolution' so it might be a simplification of handling what is basically the same attack.
I think the mistake there was that they meant this to be for Quadruped eidolons, not Bipeds.