Steam-Powered Clockwork doesn't spell out a cost or caster level, which makes me think it follows clockworks cost and caster level. but:
"The caster level of the clockwork creature’s creator is 10th or the CR of the clockwork creature -1, whichever is higher (minimum 1st)."
how can it be minimum first if its minimum 10? also clockwork toy golem and mechanical efreeti are both caster level 7, so is the "whichever is higher" just a typo? Can a clocksmith wizard not use its level 1 clockwork craft construct ability until caster level 7 anyway??
And whats the cost on steam powered? theres a popular excel spreadsheet out there that says 150% cost, the clockwork itself says 2,000 times its CR in gold pieces (which is not 150% if normal construct pricing guide says CR squared right?).
lots of confusion here, maybe its written somewhere else that i didnt see?
ok i found in the subtype itself, it lists the 150%. so i guess that half is answered, still confused on the caster level portion:
Difficult to Create (Ex) The time and gp cost required
to create a clockwork is 150% of normal. Construction
requirements in individual clockwork monster entries
are already increased.
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1) The Clocksmith wizard gets Craft Construct.
2)
Crafting and Bypassing Requirements: What crafting requirements can you bypass by adding +5 to the DC of your Spellcraft check?
As presented on page 549 of the Core Rulebook, there are no limitations other than (1) you have to have the item creation feat, and (2) you cannot create potions, spell-trigger, or spell-completion magic items without meeting their spell prerequisites. So racial requirements, specific spell requirements, math requirements (such as "caster level must be at least three times the enhancement bonus"), and so on, are all subject to the +5 DC rule.
Minimum caster level for the crator can be bypassed by increasing the DC.
The CL of the construct can be lower than the CL of the creator.3) Clockwork is a construct subtype from the Bestiaries; Steam-Powered Construct is a template from the Contuct Handbook. I doubt they were meant to work together.
4) I don't see "The caster level of the clockwork creature’s creator is 10th or the CR of the clockwork creature -1, whichever is higher (minimum 1st)." in either the template or the subtype, and a search in Archives of Nethys doesn't find a match. What is the source?
1) The Clocksmith wizard gets Craft Construct.
2)
Crafting and Bypassing Requirements: What crafting requirements can you bypass by adding +5 to the DC of your Spellcraft check?
As presented on page 549 of the Core Rulebook, there are no limitations other than (1) you have to have the item creation feat, and (2) you cannot create potions, spell-trigger, or spell-completion magic items without meeting their spell prerequisites. So racial requirements, specific spell requirements, math requirements (such as "caster level must be at least three times the enhancement bonus"), and so on, are all subject to the +5 DC rule.
Minimum caster level for the crator can be bypassed by increasing the DC.
The CL of the construct can be lower than the CL of the creator.3) Clockwork is a construct subtype from the Bestiaries; Steam-Powered Construct is a template from the Contuct Handbook. I doubt they were meant to work together.
4) I don't see "The caster level of the clockwork creature’s creator is 10th or the CR of the clockwork creature -1, whichever is higher (minimum 1st)." in either the template or the subtype, and a search in Archives of Nethys doesn't find a match. What is the source?
you cant bypass caster level for constructs:
"Caster Level: Some constructs, especially the more powerful ones, require the creator to be of a certain caster level in order to craft them. Unlike some other crafting requirements, this requirement must be met in order to craft the construct, and cannot be ignored simply by increasing the DC of the skill check to craft the construct by 5."you're right about the clockwork template though, its labeled 3PP and i missed it! so there is no template for clockwork base then, its just the subtype?
Also, they are meant to work together, if you read steam powered clockwork it says "this gains the clockwork subtype with the following changes" but its kind of moot if that other template is 3pp anyway. :)
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so there is no template for clockwork base then, its just the subtype?
I haven't found one in the Archive of Nethys, and that is the official online source for Pathfinder.
AFAIK, a construct can have a shape that is reminiscent of something, but it is not created by adding a template to a living creature; it is made from scratch.