| Ultrawizard |
Preface: I've read through the ORC, OGL, and Community Use, I'm not sure if there's a better spot to pose this question. It looks like it should be fine, but I'd prefer to get some confirmation that this is well within the licenses.
Hello, I am currently in the process of making a couple of tools to simplify item management and character creation.
As a part of this, I prefer using AI to assist in both building a frontend, as well as a backend to handle intricacies to the system.
I'm planning specifically to use an AI to read an uploaded dataset of rules from the Foundry VTT module, which from what I can see should be only the SRD rules, and is within the ORC, OGL, and Community Use rules. (They will of course be asked for permission to use their dataset).
What I'm wondering is if this is allowed under these licenses? The resulting website will of course follow Community Use, however, I would like to know if it is allowed to upload the SRD rules data to an AI to have it parse and extrapolate application design from them, as well as make the rules database for the character creation and item management tools.
The use of AI in coding is very prolific, and it is likely that most people who are either currently making tools for Pathfinder, or are planning to, will use AI in some way. Having guidelines on what is, and what isn't allowed regarding use of AI would be very useful for the people creating tools that the community will use.
Moth Mariner
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Agree that having a policy on AI added to the above should be on the agenda. There's a recently announced video game using AI for pf2e, unsure where that sits with Paizo. And I believe several website tools with AI already exist.
I know that Paizo have banned it from their own materials (no generative text or images in their products), and from fan-made products on pathfinder and starfinder infinite, but that does still leave the FCP/CUP/ORC etc still open.
Personally I don't consider it "likely that most people" in coding are using it. The pf2e FoundryVTT team are not using it (as far as I'm aware, but they are pretty vocally against it, mostly banning it from their discord etc.), and they're the main coders in this sphere. I'm also inclined towards keeping this human hobby human.
But whichever way it goes, having it addressed by Paizo would help.
| NotADragon |
Personally I don't consider it "likely that most people" in coding are using it [AI].
A quick internet search will tell you otherwise. The Stack Overflow survey from 2025 says over 50% of professional developers use AI coding tools regularly. Jetbrains in 2026 says about 90% of their users use it weekly. Microsoft claim about 75% of Visual Studio Code users do it.
I think it's important to distinguish between AI coding assist, and generative AI used to make new content.
Literally every competent programmer knows how to write the code to roll a D20, ask to re-roll for a hero point, and calculate the success level against a DC. If they choose to outsource writing that code to a machine, that's like using a washing machine instead of hand-washing. It's not like using generative AI to make new monsters or adventures. I do not think it is economically feasible to ban AI coding assist from app development. A ban on generative AI is a reasonable idea in 2026.
| NotADragon |
Moth Mariner wrote:Agree that having a policy on AI added to the above should be on the agenda. There's a recently announced video game using AI for pf2e, unsure where that sits with Paizo.Link/info?
Lunatic Dice channel on social media. They are using AI coding assist, not generative AI.