Druid -> Sorcerer MC archetype -> Primal Evolution feat

[wheatleymr]

If a caster takes a multi class archetype to another spell caster class, and picks up one of their feats, and that feat references the rank of their spells ... is this locked to the class of the MC archetype, or can it apply to their main class?
E.g. the "Druid -> MC sorcerer (primal bloodline) -> Primal Evolution" example in the title.

Another example might be taking the Witch MC archetype, and then later the Spellcasting familiar ability. (Assume this is with a class that doesn't get a familiar at all, if that matters.)

[NorrKnekten]

Much like staves I view this as being the highest rank castable by the character over all, Otherwise we run into moments where a character spends an 12 level feat, grabbing an 6th level feat but the benefit granted is 2-3 levels below what the initial feat would've provided.

The familiar is pretty cut and dry that it works with any spell just as if you had gained a familiar normally.

[Claxon]

With Primal Evolution specifically, as a GM I would rule that it has to be based on a class that provides Primal tradition spells, but that would allow your casting progression from Druid to count.

That is more effective than a multiclass feat might normally be...but honestly all it's really doing is giving you more sustain on your casting ability. It's not really increasing your power, just how long you could keep doing it. And summon spells aren't exactly powerful either. They're better at utility or soaking up attacks/distracting the enemy than they are at actually attacking.

[Errenor]

With Primal Evolution specifically, I absolutely will base it on Sorcerer's everything. 'Bloodline', 'highest slot' feat from a dedication and dedications never give highest slots, effectively spontaneous casting from it, 'repertoire' - there's absolutely no way it can depend on anything but this specific sorcerer.
Don't like the result - don't take the feat.

[NorrKnekten]

Errenor wrote:

With Primal Evolution specifically, I absolutely will base it on Sorcerer's everything. 'Bloodline', 'highest slot' feat from a dedication and dedications never give highest slots, effectively spontaneous casting from it, 'repertoire' - there's absolutely no way it can depend on anything but this specific sorcerer.

Don't like the result - don't take the feat.

Sure, most feats give multiple additional spellslots of 2 ranks lower, or a single one rank lower than what the highest from the dedication, but there are absolutely dedication feats that do give restricted spellslots of half the characters level, or innate spells of the same rank. Especially when the restriction is that this slot can only cast a certain spell and nothing else. But Primal evolution can only be used for these two summon spells, Neither are added to the repertoire and the slot cannot be used for anything else.

Just to get this straight, a caster who multi-classes into sorcerer not only needs to wait until level 8 in order to pick these level 4 feats, but also pick the spellcasting benefits, just so the slot they gain can only be used for this specific summon spell and starts out one rank lower and doesn't increase in rank until level 12 at the cost of another feat.

That very much seems to fall under "does not work as intended" while Non-MC archetypes very frequently grant innate spells of half the characters level rounded up, like Stonebound granting auto-heighten Summon Elemental as a level 4 feat.

[The Raven Black]

Based on the other Tradition Evolution feats, definitely locked to Sorcerer's spell ranks.

[Squark]

Yeah, Arcane Evolution wouldn't give an Oracle or even an Arcane Summoner a pseudo-spellbook for their primary class's spells and Occult Evolution wouldn't let a bard add to their bard repetoire, so Divine and Prinal Evolution's spell rank should be tied to sorcerer spell ranks.

[Errenor]

Yeah, even better points, Raven Black ,Squark.