So psychics can now freely cast spells underwater?


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DA Errata wrote:

Page 10: Update the first paragraph under Psychic Spellcasting.

“You access the vast well of power that resides within your own mind, calling forth psychic magic with nothing but thought and will. You are a spellcaster and can cast occult spells using the Cast a Spell activity (Pathfinder Player Core 299). You don’t need to utter incantations to cast your spells, instead exerting your mind toward your intended effect as described in your subconscious mind class feature. Your spells still have clear and noticeable visual and auditory manifestations, as normal for a spellcaster.”

Does this mean psychics can cast freely underwater without having to give up all their held breath?


Sure looks that way. If there's no incantations, there's no need to say anything, which is what causes you to lose your air.

Nice little bonus when it comes up.


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Always could unless something was changed in the remastered book

Premaster Dark Archive Psychic wrote:
You alter some of the standard spell components when casting spells you know from your psychic spellcasting. Instead of speaking, you substitute any verbal components with a special mental component determined by your subconscious mind class feature.
The only thing they loose is a single round of air because as said.
Drowning and suffocating wrote:
Reduce your remaining air by 1 round at the end of each of your turns, or by 2 if you attacked or cast any spells that turn.

Ofcourse this doesn't mean they can hide their spellcasting but its still neat that effects like Silence doesn't stop them.


NorrKnekten wrote:
Ofcourse this doesn't mean they can hide their spellcasting but its still neat that effects like Silence doesn't stop them.

I think a 2nd-rank Silence on the Psychic would actually hide the auditory manifestations of his spells, so if he is invisible as well…


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Theaitetos wrote:
NorrKnekten wrote:
Ofcourse this doesn't mean they can hide their spellcasting but its still neat that effects like Silence doesn't stop them.
I think a 2nd-rank Silence on the Psychic would actually hide the auditory manifestations of his spells, so if he is invisible as well…

"Your spells still have clear and noticeable visual and auditory manifestations, as normal for a spellcaster.” Invisibility makes you invisible, not your manifestations.

Invisibility: "Illusions bend light around the target, rendering it invisible." The target, not the manifestations. So you'd still get the normal spellcasting visuals.


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graystone wrote:

"Your spells still have clear and noticeable visual and auditory manifestations, as normal for a spellcaster.” Invisibility makes you invisible, not your manifestations.

Invisibility: "Illusions bend light around the target, rendering it invisible." The target, not the manifestations. So you'd still get the normal spellcasting visuals.

Maybe it's worth to add for completeness that the way to cast from invisibility is to use subtle spells (innate or spellshaped).

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