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Okay, I’m bored and counting down the time until I can go see the finale in the theater. It got me thinking that we need to Remaster the world with an array of stranger creatures and their equivalents in Pathfinder, as well as the things that stand in for many of the plot points - especially now that we have more answers on the lore. For example, the abyss is probably the equivalent of the Ethereal plane in Pathfinder, connecting the Universe to something else. I guess we can’t call out that last location until we know more about Dimension X.
The equivalent of creatures in this streaming world that we’ve come to know in the last decade is a little harder. Those pesky dogs might be fairly similar to Hounds of Tindalos. What about the BBEG and his minions? Is there a stand in creature for that possessing cloud (or is it more of a sentient connective tissue to the abyss)? I guess we don’t know all the answers quite yet, and may not get them in the last episode but it is fun to give a first crack at some conversions.
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How much have you watched? I don't want to accidentally ruin anything.
I will say that I think the "upside down" is like a transitive plane. It's probably closest to the Shadow Plane (now named as the Netherworld).
The Abyss...well the enemies in Stranger things originated from the place they call the Abyss. But it honestly seems like it could simply be a distant alien world, or it could be another plane. Though it is called the abyss in the show, it doesn't resemble the abyss of Pathfinder or DnD.
Before the finale, the idea was introduced that the upside down was a bridge via wormhole, so I'm actually of the mind that the "Abyss" was a distant alien world with an unknowable alien creatures. Though it doesn't make much difference whether it's another plane or an distant world.
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How much have you watched? I don't want to accidentally ruin anything.
I will say that I think the "upside down" is like a transitive plane. It's probably closest to the Shadow Plane (now named as the Netherworld).
The Abyss...well the enemies in Stranger things originated from the place they call the Abyss. But it honestly seems like it could simply be a distant alien world, or it could be another plane. Though it is called the abyss in the show, it doesn't resemble the abyss of Pathfinder or DnD.
Before the finale, the idea was introduced that the upside down was a bridge via wormhole, so I'm actually of the mind that the "Abyss" was a distant alien world with an unknowable alien creatures. Though it doesn't make much difference whether it's another plane or a distant world.
I have seen all episodes and I got the Abyss and Upside Down confused, so I agree with you on your assessment of those realms. Although, Leng might also be a good stand in for the Stranger Things’ Abyss. Leng would lend itself well to being the source of hounds of tindalos as demodogs.
If the upside down was the astral plane, couldn’t that contribute to the idea that the ST abyss is actually a planetoid pocket dimension in the astral plane?
I’ll need to think a little more about other creatures. I don’t think they necessarily need to be from their Pathfinder locations as the idea is to just see if there are rules-based equivalents for the ST lore.
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An eshmok (wasp demon) might be a good approximation of demogorgons. It’s a couple levels above a hound of tindalos and the wasp abilities can be reskinned as a black mist manifestation of the ST mind flayer. This is taking too much of my time but now that I’m started, I feel like I’ve got to complete the conversion exercise with the ST two BBEGs.
Any ideas other Pathfinder fans might have on this are appreciated. I will probably never use the conversions, but it might spur some inspiration for other GMs.
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Henry should be a rune carved lich as that gives some flexibility in the creature’s build while also starting with an impressive array of power. The flayer is going to be a lot harder because it took at least three different forms during the series.