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This item was added in Battlecry!, but I am unsure what the item bonus to "Perception DCs" exactly does?

It is not an item bonus to Perception checks generally, I would say, given that the item is cheaper than many alternatives (Obsidian Goggles, Mirror Goggles), which only apply their item bonus to visual perception checks.

Reading it as if the item makes Perception DCs by opponents harder (i.e. they need a higher Perception check to notice you and your allies) seems counterintuitive to the item being a banner, meaning something which is prominently visually displayed.

You could also read it that you "gain" a penalty, i.e. the banner applies its "bonus" to your Perception DCs, making them harder. But that would clash with the wording, since you "gain an item bonus".

Anybody here who can explain to me what getting an item bonus to Perception DCs actually does?


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Its for whenever an enemy tries to use an action that specifically targets your Perception DC.

Most stealth actions and feint, So it makes it harder for creatures to sneak up on you and so on.


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It makes it harder for enemies to conceal themselves from you with the Stealth skill.

If they attempt to Hide or Sneak, their Stealth check needs to beat your higher-than-normal Perception DC (which is normally 10 + your Perception modifier).

Another way of looking at it is you get better at passively spotting hidden enemies. It won't help you when Seeking (where you just roll Perception against someone's Stealth DC or other set DC), but it will help you at other times.

It probably helps against pick pockets and the like as well. Remember, except for Initiative, there are no opposed rolls in Pathfinder 2nd Edition; a check is always compared to a DC, not to another roll.


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Thanks for the info! The forum went down just an hour after I had posted this question. ^^

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