New Unarmed Attack as Weapon Ikon ?

[The Raven Black]

For a Weapon Ikon that applies to an Unarmed Attack, can you choose an Unarmed Attack you get through a stance? What about an attack you get in a Battle Form? What about a permanent Unarmed Attack you get after selecting your Ikon?

For new items, we have ""If you acquire a new item the ikon’s usage could apply to, you can switch your ikon to the new item by spending 1 day of downtime with the new ikon as you saturate the object with your divine energy."

What about new or temporary Unarmed Attacks?

[Dr. Frank Funkelstein]

There is no rule text about it: Ask your DM

[The Raven Black]

Dr. Frank Funkelstein wrote:

There is no rule text about it: Ask your DM

This is for PFS PCs.

[HammerJack]

There is no rules text about it and no PFS campaign ruling, either, so no one is going to be able to gove you a solid answer that aboids table variation, unless there's some developer clarification.

I wouldn't expect anyone to really read new permanent unarmed attacks as a problem, but there is a reasonable enough reading that you don't have those unarmed attacks through the downtime for any of them to be valid. I would strongly recommend not trying to exist in that grey area in a campaign with multiple GMs.

[The Raven Black]

I had hoped we missed something, but it seems no. Thank you.

[Finoan]

Yeah. The rules for Ikons are pretty clear that there are some that work for unarmed attacks. Much less clear is if they work for temporary unarmed attacks like those from a Stance. Nothing says that they don't, but nothing says that they do either.

For PFS, I have heard that they will first want questions like this sent to the community for volunteer rules lawyers to look at before making a PFS campaign ruling on. And, well, now you have that.