Confusing Colors


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Looking for some clarification on how this spell works. I assume while its being sustained each round you can force new saves each round so if someone may have successfully saved on round 1, you could force another one on round 2 and subsequent rounds? On the failure effect when the enemy is confused are they confused with a new save each round to free themselves or are they confused for the duration (1D4 rounds)?

Confusing Colors
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Spell 8
Illusion Incapacitation Manipulate Subtle Visual
Source Player Core 2 pg. 243 1.1
Traditions arcane, occult
Deity Nalinivati
Range 120 feet (24sq); Area 20-foot (4sq) burst
Defense Will; Duration sustained up to 1 minute
A cloud of cascading, ever-changing colors manifests in the air. Creatures are dazzled while inside the cloud, as are those within 20 feet (4sq) of the cloud's area. A creature must attempt a Will save if it is inside the cloud when you cast it, enters the cloud, ends its turn within the cloud, or uses a Seek or Interact action on the cloud. A creature currently affected by the cloud doesn't need to attempt new saves.

Success The creature is unaffected.
Failure The creature is confused for 1d4 (2) rounds.
Critical Failure The creature is stunned for 1d4 (2) rounds. After the stunned condition ends, the creature is confused for the remaining duration of the spell.


And are you allowed to move the cloud each round?


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>I assume while its being sustained each round you can force new saves each round so if someone may have successfully saved on round 1, you could force another one on round 2 and subsequent rounds?

You can't force a save aside from at its initial casting unless you can actively prevent them from leaving the cloud on their turn. All the other save conditions aside from on cast depend on their actions

"A creature must attempt a Will save if it is inside the cloud when you cast it, enters the cloud, ends its turn within the cloud, or uses a Seek or Interact action on the cloud. A creature currently affected by the cloud doesn't need to attempt new saves."

So if they're in the 20' burst upon its casting, they roll to save. After that, if they fulfil ANY of the other conditions and are not already currently suffering from the affects of a failed or crit failed save, they roll to save. It's out of your hands

>On the failure effect when the enemy is confused are they confused with a new save each round to free themselves or are they confused for the duration (1D4 rounds)?

They don't make new saves while confused on a failure. "A creature currently affected by the cloud doesn't need to attempt new saves." They DO make a flat check upon taking damage from an attack or spell because of the confused condition rules. "Each time you take damage from an attack or spell, you can attempt a DC 11 flat check to recover from your confusion and end the condition." So they're confused for the 1d4 rounds or until someone (including themself if they have no other targets) breaks their confusion with damage from an attack or spell. Once the confusion ends or is broken, they're susceptible to a new save if they're foolish enough to do one of the triggers

>And are you allowed to move the cloud each round?

Nothing in the spell description suggests you may move the cloud, so no

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