Fighter Weapon Mastery / Legend, Brawling Weapons and Wild Shape / Untamed Form

[John R.]

I was building a fighter with the druid dedication. I was pretty confident it would work, then the automation on Foundry wasn't upgrading my proficiency for my battle form unarmed attacks. I looked into it and I guess since these unarmed attacks aren't explicitly in the brawling group, they don't qualify for the upgrade.

It looks like this is an issue others have ran into but I can't find any official clarification. Has this been errata'd or clarified yet or do we have to assume fighters can't advance all unarmed attacks early based on wording?

[NorrKnekten]

Oh this isn't an issue nor does it need clarifying errata. The abilities interact exactly as they say they do with Foundry also having this fully automated. You have also accurately found the reason why.

Fighter gets a proficiency bump when using a certain weapon group, And not all unarmed attacks are in the brawling weapon group nor is there anything that would put them in said weapongroup unless otherwise stated. Infact of the top of my head I know of like a dozen unarmed attacks from the Sling, Dart, club and knife groups. And even those lacking categories entirely.

[John R.]

NorrKnekten wrote:

Oh this isn't an issue nor does it need clarifying errata. The abilities interact exactly as they say they do with Foundry also having this fully automated. You have also accurately found the reason why.

Fighter gets a proficiency bump when using a certain weapon group, And not all unarmed attacks are in the brawling weapon group nor is there anything that would put them in said weapongroup unless otherwise stated. Infact of the top of my head I know of like a dozen unarmed attacks from the Sling, Dart, club and knife groups. And even those lacking categories entirely.

Ugh. I'm not very familiar with unarmed attacks granted from ancestries since I usually play humans but those are some pretty damning examples. Thank you. Not happy with the answer but it's pretty convincing.

[NorrKnekten]

You used to be able to have the proficiency from Weapons Legend apply to all unarmed attacks trough Martial Artist Archetype, but that seems to have been changed with the remaster.

EDIT: I looked it up, and its not just martial artist. But pretty much every archetype which had the clause about getting higher proficiency in the archetype's related weapons whenever you gained higher proficiency in other certain weapons.