So spoilers for rise of the runelords,
There is greater barghast that is being imprisoned the runelord and my players managed to slay it. Since it’s been in the material plane for some time and so probably not a summoned monster, would it leave behind a body and would the body be an appropriate target for animate dead? Google seems to bring up different results for if animate dead can raise slain outsiders
Outsider wrote:
-Unlike most living creatures, an outsider does not have a dual nature—its soul and body form one unit. When an outsider is slain, no soul is set loose. Spells that restore souls to their bodies, such as raise dead, reincarnate, and resurrection, don’t work on an outsider. It takes a different magical effect, such as limited wish, wish, miracle, or true resurrection to restore it to life. An outsider with the native subtype can be raised, reincarnated, or resurrected just as other living creatures can be.
Bringing outsiders back to life doesn't work, converting corporeal bodies (corpses) to undead is usually fine.
If the corpse remains, it can be animated by the animate dead spell. They could create the zombie using 225 gp worth of onyx (9 HD) or the skeleton for 175 gp worth (7 HD).
A greater barghest has a skeleton and a body, so the skeleton or zombie templates can be applied by the spell.
Not all the outsiders are suitable to be turned into undead by animate dead, as their bodies can be made of different matter than flesh and bone. The main problem with turning one into an undead is that they lose almost all of their abilities.
Diego Rossi is right. The outsider would not have any of their outsider abilities.
Mysterious Stranger wrote: Diego Rossi is right. The outsider would not have any of their outsider abilities. The main reason we might want it is because if I raise it as a fast zombie it’s full attack is like a sword hit, 2 claws and a slam which does a lot of damage plus it’s pretty Tanky at I think 70ish health when zombified. It doesn’t have any super good outsider abilities, it’s spell like abilities were pretty bad against us except for blink so I don’t think my party will mind
if you have a corpse, calculate the material cost at HD+template HD, cast the spell and apply the zombie template to the monster description.
Don't expect more than HD, some basic attacks, and a zombie at +2 Natural Armor.
Maniacwyrm wrote: Mysterious Stranger wrote: Diego Rossi is right. The outsider would not have any of their outsider abilities. The main reason we might want it is because if I raise it as a fast zombie it’s full attack is like a sword hit, 2 claws and a slam which does a lot of damage plus it’s pretty Tanky at I think 70ish health when zombified. It doesn’t have any super good outsider abilities, it’s spell like abilities were pretty bad against us except for blink so I don’t think my party will mind Where does it get the 3rd hand to do 2 claw attacks and a sword attack?
Its attack routine would be 1 bite, 2 claws, 1 slam.
Wielding a sword would be a big hindrance, as it would make all the natural attacks secondary, thus suffering a -5 to hit.
Diego Rossi wrote: Maniacwyrm wrote: Mysterious Stranger wrote: Diego Rossi is right. The outsider would not have any of their outsider abilities. The main reason we might want it is because if I raise it as a fast zombie it’s full attack is like a sword hit, 2 claws and a slam which does a lot of damage plus it’s pretty Tanky at I think 70ish health when zombified. It doesn’t have any super good outsider abilities, it’s spell like abilities were pretty bad against us except for blink so I don’t think my party will mind Where does it get the 3rd hand to do 2 claw attacks and a sword attack?
Its attack routine would be 1 bite, 2 claws, 1 slam.
Wielding a sword would be a big hindrance, as it would make all the natural attacks secondary, thus suffering a -5 to hit.
Oh lmao I checked with my dm and he said he accidentally said sword instead of bite during the fight and so he just kept saying sword throughout the fight. So yeah it’s a bite lol(the dm is definitely not me nope didn’t make that mistake lol)
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