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Hey folks,
My game world has been running for about 25 years. It's been shaped by previous characters successes and failures (so it doesnt perfectly resemble the AP Golarion). We're nearing the end of Tyrant's Grasp and there are major world shaping implications.
I'm wondering what folks think would happen if Tar-Baphon reaches the Starstone. Does he achieve apotheosis? If so, what's his portfolio as a new god? What kind of conflicts does this create in the pantheon? Does he count Urgathoa as an ally or as enemy competition? What's the in-world impact of him ascending to divinity?
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Hey folks,
My game world has been running for about 25 years. It's been shaped by previous characters successes and failures (so it doesnt perfectly resemble the AP Golarion). We're nearing the end of Tyrant's Grasp and there are major world shaping implications.
I'm wondering what folks think would happen if Tar-Baphon reaches the Starstone. Does he achieve apotheosis? If so, what's his portfolio as a new god? What kind of conflicts does this create in the pantheon? Does he count Urgathoa as an ally or as enemy competition? What's the in-world impact of him ascending to divinity?
The way I ran it, he was not interested in ascending to divinity. He is immortal anyway.
That takes him off the board. As his simulacrum said to the PCs in Book 4, Norgorber ascended, are thieves no longer hung? Cayden ascended, are hangovers no longer? Iomedae ascended, are all crusades successful? Did godhood save Aroden?
so... what's the point?
Instead, he sought the Starstone to use its power to become the God of the Real. To control the Prime Material Plane.
I can't find the post right now, but an idea I really liked was that instead of becoming a god he uses the Starstone to wipe out life in Golarion.
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Oooooh. Very cool. This is also keeping with the Gallowspire puzzle:
Tar-Baphon>Gods>Undead>Mortals
He fancies himself above the gods, so why would he aspire to become one? Seeking divinity would make his arrogance all bluster when in fact he covets their position. I sort of like him as utterly confident and bought into his self-importance. He actually thinks gods are beneath him.
Y'all have any details on how the Starstone might be weaponized?
Oooooh. Very cool. This is also keeping with the Gallowspire puzzle:
Tar-Baphon>Gods>Undead>Mortals
He fancies himself above the gods, so why would he aspire to become one? Seeking divinity would make his arrogance all bluster when in fact he covets their position. I sort of like him as utterly confident and bought into his self-importance. He actually thinks gods are beneath him.
Y'all have any details on how the Starstone might be weaponized?
The original source of the Starstone was from the alghollthus who had originally wanted to destroy the Azlanti empire for nearly discovering them. Tar-Baphon could simply decide to finish the job. A rock that can make a god out of anyone can be used to destroy life.
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Oooooh. Very cool. This is also keeping with the Gallowspire puzzle:
Tar-Baphon>Gods>Undead>Mortals
He fancies himself above the gods, so why would he aspire to become one? Seeking divinity would make his arrogance all bluster when in fact he covets their position. I sort of like him as utterly confident and bought into his self-importance. He actually thinks gods are beneath him.
Y'all have any details on how the Starstone might be weaponized?
It's outside the scope of the AP.
If he succeeds [i.e. kills the party] then it's game over.
If he fails, well, then that's the end of the AP [and the world].
If you want to run some kind of post-TB-victory campaign, then that's something else. You could take some inspiration from the fantastic 'Midnight' campaign setting books if you wanted to run the last campaign in Golarion against the final boss.
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