Runic Reprisal, Trace Trance & What is a turn?


Runesmith Class Discussion


Can I trace multiple damaging runes on my shield with Runic Reprisal. When I use shield block can i invoke all of the runes on my shield? When does this turn end for the effect of Trace Trance, can I invoke it and write 4 Runes on my shield then Shield Block Reaction to trigger them all at once when I am attacked?


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My understanding is fortifying knock you trace a single shield rune as part of raise shield

Runic reprisal is a special damaging rune etched onto your shield that ONLY invokes as a part of the reaction to shield block then otherwise goes away.

I think that's the intent at least. I don't think the intent is to repeatedly trace damage runes every time you raise shield and have them persist.

When you shield block it specifically mentions you invoking that reprisal, not other runes

Tracing trance shouldn't allow you to fortifying knock.


Makes sense.


Martialmasters wrote:

Runic reprisal is a special damaging rune etched onto your shield that ONLY invokes as a part of the reaction to shield block then otherwise goes away.

I think that's the intent at least. I don't think the intent is to repeatedly trace damage runes every time you raise shield and have them persist.

It is currently technically ambiguous, since the wording says "The traced rune doesn't have its normal effect." It seems obvious that the rune maintains its 'until the end of your next turn' duration, but it's not explicit at the moment.

Martialmasters wrote:
When you shield block it specifically mentions you invoking that reprisal, not other runes

This is another point of ambiguity. Invoking the rune is not called out as a free action triggered by Shield Block, so technically multiple Runic Reprisal runes *could* trigger on the same Shield Block. Presuming the runes still last only until the end of your next turn as stated above, and given the once/turn frequency of Fortifying Knock, at most you could have two instances of Runic Reprisal active if the Shield Block triggered after Fortifying Knock on a second turn.

Martialmasters wrote:
Tracing trance shouldn't allow you to fortifying knock.

You can't use the quickened action from Tracing Trance to use Fortifying Knock, but your "turn" only lasts until your three actions are used, which means you would be able to Invoke as a reaction *after* your turn affected by Tracing Trance ends.

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