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Alright. So I have a lvl 8 Cosmos Oracle Tarkii.
With Player Core 2 out, I decided to try and figure out how they would function without a rebuild. Here's my reading of things. Please let me know if you see any mistakes or even things that aren't completely clear. Obviously I could avoid this all by rebuilding but I wanted to think about how it would work.
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After Aug 12th until rebuilt (Once they finish their current pbp), they'll still have the old chassis, but the new mystery.
Looking at feats first (because they are easier):
Blessed One is in Player Core 2, The Dedication seems the same
Old Mercy did fear or paralyzed. Now I have to choose a category of Body/Grace/Mind and get several conditions to remove. Technical action economy changed slightly but not effectively. (From 1+1 to 2)
Level 8 Debilitating Dichotomy now just gives me a Cursebound ability {instead of a revelation (cursebound) focus spell} Scaling is slightly worse (scales at even levels 10+ instead of odd levels 9+). Casting it no longer uses focus points though.
Level 2 Divine Access now an 11th level class feature with the same name and function as my level 2 class feat. I obviously don't get the new one as I don't get the new chassis. I think this makes my current feat choice invalid (Since it's now a class feature and not a class feat) and since it shares a name it counts as errata and I have to replace it. (Not 100% sure though)
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Biggest changes are of course the mystery.
Cosmos Mystery loses Physical DR (2+ 1/2*level)
Granted Focus Spell Spray of Stars got improved damage. The chassis says "Revelation spells have the cursebound trait" so even though Spray of stars no longer inherently has it, my chassis gives it the trait.
Related Domains (Choose a domain spell, it gains the cursebound trait.) There are more domains available, but Moon remains on the list, and Moonbeam (already in PC1) has improved damage. Note that since it's the Oracle Chassis, and not the mystery that gives this spell the cursebound trait, it retains that trait.
Curse of the Sky's Call is part of my mystery and shares the old name. Now it enfeebles and reduces defenses against forced movement based on my "cursebound value"
My curse also has the Oracle Feat "Oracular Warning." and "Granted Spells" It's unclear to me if I receive these or not, since the Legacy Oracle Chassis doesn't provide information on what to do with these features. Is the "Reading a Mystery" section in the remastered oracle part of the chassis that I don't have access to, or it it just instructions for how to use the new mystery, which I am using? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It looks like I still retain the Minor/Moderate/Overwhelmed Curse progression(Major and Severe at higher level). Still can't reduce below Minor during the day, but Minor/Moderate no longer do anything.
Overwhelmed still locks out my Revelation Spells, but doesn't stop me from using things like my new Debilitating Dichotomy (Since it's no longer a revelation spell, and my overwhelmed only says "you can't Cast or Sustain any revelation spells"
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Tl;DR: I lose DR, and the jumping/weight benefits of Cosmos. I think I have to replace my Divince Access feat. I may or may not get some spell access, and the Ocular Warning ability. I'll never actually trigger the Cursebound #s to make my curse do anything. My low level focus spells are slightly improved, but I can use my high level cursebound feat every round (will quickly lock out my cursebound focus spells, but not my LoH from Blessed One.
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Thanks in advance for any thoughts or error corrections. <3
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Level 8 Debilitating Dichotomy now just gives me a Cursebound ability {instead of a revelation (cursebound) focus spell} Scaling is slightly worse (scales at even levels 10+ instead of odd levels 9+). Casting it no longer uses focus points though.
It's unclear to me if you can use Cursebound abilities at all now, as the new Cursebound trait increases your Cursebound status, and old Oracle chassis doesn't have any consideration for having Cursebound at all... effectively making your maximum Cursebound 0. Being able to go to Cursebound 2 is part of the new chassis. The new trait does NOT increase the status of your curse under the new rules in the same way, and while it makes sense to map Cursebound 1/2/3 to Minor/Moderate/Major, nothing RAW actually enables that.
Given that, I don't think you can actually cast Debilitating Dichotomy.
Level 2 Divine Access now an 11th level class feature with the same name and function as my level 2 class feat. I obviously don't get the new one as I don't get the new chassis. I think this makes my current feat choice invalid (Since it's now a class feature and not a class feat) and since it shares a name it counts as errata and I have to replace it. (Not 100% sure though)
I agree with this. The feat is now invalid since it was reprinted as a class feature.
My curse also has the Oracle Feat "Oracular Warning." and "Granted Spells" It's unclear to me if I receive these or not, since the Legacy Oracle Chassis doesn't provide information on what to do with these features. Is the "Reading a Mystery" section in the remastered oracle part of the chassis that I don't have access to, or it it just instructions for how to use the new mystery, which I am using? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This is also unclear to me. I THINK the definition of Mystery and Curse itself is part of the chassis, even if the mysteries themselves are considered errata, which makes this whole thing incredibly confusing.
Given that, I think you don't get the new things, but do keep the old things (the new chassis wouldn't grant Moonbeam). That means you don't get Oracular Warning and keep Moonbeam. If you take the other interpretation that you get everything in the new Mystery including the rules to make it work, you do get Oracular Warning and lose Moonbeam.
I am really glad I'm not GMing PFS this month because I don't know how I'd even sort this out at the table. It'd be so much easer if it was "use the old rules if the character already exists and you're not rebuilding", because the new Mystery/Curse and the old chassis do not play nice together.
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Been pointed out to me elsewhere that the current draft of the Reaster Guidelines specifically address the Cursebound issue and make Oracles use the new cursebound condition which fixes the whole cursebound not generating pebalties and not preventing feats.
Super happy to hear that bit will function sensibly.
Still some other small ambiguities but nothing game breaking.
The more I think about it the more I thonk Divine Access has to keep working.
Just like reprinting the Catfolk monster family in Monster Core didn't invalidate the ancestry.
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I now realize hybrid legacy-remaster oracle is a nightmare to understand. I don’t want to have to figure out these ambiguous rule interactions on the fly when GMing.
As a GM, I would like a more standardized endpoint for oracles that removes the ambiguity of how a class works. That is a table argument waiting to happen.
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The more I think about it the more I thonk Divine Access has to keep working.Just like reprinting the Catfolk monster family in Monster Core didn't invalidate the ancestry.
The Bestiary version was never available as a player option, so a reprint of that in Monster Core doesn't change anything. The Ancestry and the Creature are not similar, so this isn't really demonstrating anything.
Divine Access was an Oracle thing before and is still an Oracle thing, just changed. That means it's errata and the old one is no longer valid.