Does all mean all?


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The text of the feat Fane's Fourberie describes it as a stance for rogues and swashbucklers. The PFS Character Options for Pathfinder Society Guide says:

PFS wrote:
As stated in the section introduction, all characters have access to the uncommon (but not rare) options in the Academy Instructors section on pages 118–119

So, does all mean all, and a character of any class can take the feat, or does all mean some, and only rogues ans swashbucklers can take the feat?

And if all really does mean all, is this a class feat, general feat, or skill feat?

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Access is not the same as meeting prerequisites. All rogues and swashbucklers in PFS play can take the feat, as they both have access and meet the prerequisites (be one of those classes).

To look at it another way: all characters have access to all common wizard class feats, but a cleric or a fighter can't take Spellbook Prodigy because they are not wizards.

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Fane's Fourberie is a class feat for Rogues and Swashbucklers.

See the tags of the feat.

It is uncommon which means in addition you need to satisfy the access condition. In PFS, all characters meet that access condition.

Just to summarize:

To select an option in PFS you need to do 2 things.

One: Satisfy any access conditions
Two: Pay the appropriate cost (In this case a Rogue or Swashbuckler Class Feat of level 2+)

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Everyone above is correct, so just to say it another way:

"All" still means "All" in that "All characters have [the potential to take] the uncommon options. . ."

Fane's Fourberie is a Rogue and Swashbuckler class feat.

The character must still follow the mechanical rules regarding class feats by being a Rogue or Swashbuckler or by taking the Rogue or Swashbuckler Dedication multiclass archetype feat and the Basic Trickery, Advanced Trickery, Basic Flair, or Advanced Flair feats.

Being granted access no more overrules which classes can take a class feat than it overrules the level requirement of being at least level 2.


Oh well. Not the answer that I wanted, but that was the answer that I expected. Too bad though, I had an amusing character concept in mind that does not work as well if the character has to be either a rogue or swashbuckler, neither of them can get the staggering stance feat.

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