mind magic immunity and illusions


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If you're immune to mind affecting effects and get hit by shadow conjuration, you automatically get reduced daage as if you passed the save, yes?

Liberty's Edge

Do you mean "Immunity to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, morale effects, patterns, and phantasms)."?

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Shadow Conjuration

School illusion (shadow) [shadow]

(The two different "Shadow" are the Subschool and the Descriptor.)

The Illusion school, the Shadow subschool, and the Shadow descriptor aren't affected by the Immunity to all mind-affecting effects. It affects only the listed Subschools and the spells/effects with the listed Descriptors.

So, to answer your question, no, it doesn't work as you think.


If a spell is mind affecting, then this will be written in its descriptor. Eg, Color Spray


Of the shadow (x school) spells, only shadow enchantment has an auto will save for those immune to [mind-affecting].

The spell being copied still has normal effects, so if that spell had [mind-affecting], immunity could apply.


Not all illusions are mind affecting effects. Spells that are patterns or phantasm are mind affecting effects, so anyone with immunity to mind affecting effects are immune to those spells. spells classified as figments, glamers or shadows are not mind affecting effects, so are not effected by immunity to mind affecting effects. In some cases an illusionary spell that is not a patter or phantasm may sate in its description it is a mind affecting effect. In that case that a creature immune to mind affecting effects is immune to it.

That means undead and constructs can be affected by figments, glamers and shawdows.

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