Ghost Rager with a magic weapon


Rules Questions


Pathfinder Lost Omens Subscriber

My search on the Ghost Rager barbarian power only skirted the issue that I'm wondering about so I'm going to start a thread in order to put a fine point on it.

Does Ghost Rager apply when you wield a magic weapon or only when you use a non-magic weapon?

Ghost Rager (Su)

Prerequisite: Barbarian 6, superstition rage power

Benefit: While raging, the barbarian deals normal damage to incorporeal creatures even when using nonmagical weapons. She also gains a morale bonus to touch AC equal to her saving throw bonus from her superstition rage power.

I'd like to think I'm not reading too much into the RAW here, but maybe I'm not reading far enough. Does 'even when using nonmagical weapons' mean that when I use a magic weapon I continue to inflict 50% damage on the incorporeal creature, or does this include magic weapons? I guess the word 'even' is throwing my logic train off the tracks here. If the power was meant to only apply to normal weapons it would have been helpful had it been written without the word 'even'.

Thanks in advance!

DJF

Grand Lodge

It works with both weapons. Normally, magic weapons do 50%. Ghost rager says you do 100%, a 50% increase. The even means that you do full damage with non-magical weapons too.

If you don't mind my derail, I have an additional ghost rager question:

Incorporeal Subtype wrote:
Incorporeal Subtype: An incorporeal creature has no physical body. An incorporeal creature is immune to critical hits and precision-based damage (such as sneak attack damage) unless the attacks are made using a weapon with the ghost touch special weapon quality. In addition, creatures with the incorporeal subtype gain the incorporeal special quality.

Can a barbarian using ghost rager crit an incorporeal undead? I know it specifies ghost touch in the subtype, but the bestiary entry was made long before ghost rager came out.


Considering that ghost rager is in all ways better than ghost touch, I'd rule yes if I GM'd it.

Sczarni

yes it applies when you wield a magical or non magical weapon, you just need to be wielding a weapon.

Silver Crusade

Improved chair leg of ghost killing!

Grand Lodge

Fun side note, if you have a +2 furious courageous weapon your ghost rager bonus goes up by +4 not +2. Ghost rager is based of superstition, which is a morale bonus and us increased by 2. Ghost rager is thus two higher, and is a morale bonus, and boosted 2 directly by courageous's effect.

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