I'm working on character sheets for the missing decks - those legacy decks and characters for which Paizo did not create freely downloadable character sheets. I think that this this is permissible under the Community Use Policy, especially since the community was allowed to convert the same legacy characters (from all decks and APs) into Core Set wording/format and freely distribute those (via the Board Game Geek). My intent is to similarly distribute these character sheets via the Board Game Geek. If I am mistaken and Paizo does not approve of this, one of the purposes of this discussion is to allow for that communication to take place.
Assuming this is permitted, however, I don't think that much assistance will be needed. It's mostly a matter of copying the information from the cards onto the documents, updating them based on official changes in the FAQ. The format I'm using bears a very strong resemblance to the official character sheets, though I'm using different fonts (I didn't get permission from my wife to purchase the real fonts), I'm not using the deck logos (including the circular icons that each deck has), and the small print at the bottom makes it clear that these are unofficial.
Here's the small print that appears at the bottom (this is the template):
This character sheet uses trademarks and/or copyrights owned by Paizo Inc., which are used under Paizo’s Community Use Policy. We are expressly prohibited from charging you to use or access this content. This character sheet is not published, endorsed, or specifically approved by Paizo Inc. For more information about Paizo’s Community Use Policy, please visit paizo.com/community/communityuse. For more information about Paizo Inc. and Paizo products, please visit paizo.com.
Information on this character sheet is derived from the official cards as found in the [Deck name] Deck and as amended in the official errata found at [URL].
Illustration by artist (used per Paizo’s Community Use Policy).
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Please let me know if you think I need to make any changes to that template.
As of right now, these are the decks (and characters) that I think are missing:
- Hell's Vengeance 1 (Lazzero, Linxia, Urgraz)
- Hell's Vengeance 2 (Emil, Nyctessa, Zelhara)
- Hunter (Adowyn, Korundo, Ukuja)
- Magus (Seltyiel, Talitha, Zvarbel)
- Occult Adventures 1 (Estra, Meligaster, Rivani)
- Occult Adventures 2 (Erasmus, Mavaro, Yoon)
- Pathfinder Tales (Celeste, Radovan, Varian)
- Ultimate Combat (Hayato)
- Ultimate Equipment (Reiko)
- Ultimate Intrigue (Aric/The Red Raven)
- Ultimate Magic (Enora)
- Ultimate Wilderness (Zova)
- Kingmaker Promo (Nok-Nok)
If I'm missing anyone, please let me know.
As with the officially available character sheets, these will not include any cohorts or other cards that might be necessary to play the character (e.g., CD Seltyiel needs both the Magus Arcana and Gallivance cards from the Magus Class Deck).
Why am I doing this?
Essentially, it's because I use the character sheets instead of the cards when playing the game (except that I use the tokens when I need to shuffle someone into a location). I get the heebie jeebies just thinking about marking my cards. Some might suggest using card sleeves and dry erase markers or alcohol pens, but even that makes me twitch. I have all of the officially available character sheets, and each is laminated and cut down to size so that I can use them as quasi-mats during game play. You can see an example in this image (which is posted at the Board Game Geek). In this play-through of Wrath of the Righteous, I'm playing Seoni and Imrijka while my wife is playing Crowe and Kyra.
We have begun playing the game with a new group and there are a few characters that I really want to try out (anyone familiar with my antics here on the Paizo forums knows that I'm a sucker for the Magus class), but the lack of character sheets and my reluctance to use the cards limits me.
Anyhoo, I'll plug away at this little project and will keep you informed of my progress herein, including links to the finished files. In the meantime, if anyone has any advice or feedback, I'm all ears.
How do I have all these "missing" character sheets if you didn't already do this? I wish I could remember where I got them.
Indeed - if someone has already taken care of this, I can stand down.
I just checked the Board Game Geek and saw that otakugirly created character sheets for the decks and redeux created a character sheet for Nok-Nok. Here are the links for anyone that is interested:
Hell's Vengeance 1
Hell's Vengeance 2
Hunter
Magus
Occult Adventures 1
Occult Adventures 2
Pathfinder Tales
Ultimate Combat
Ultimate Equipment
Ultimate Intrigue
Ultimate Magicp
Ultimate Wilderness
Kingmaker Promo (Nok-Nok)
These are all very nice and I've given each thumbs and gold. However, they are too large for my needs, which requires that they print at the same size as the official sheets (so I can cut them down and use them the same way). Since sheets are already available at the BGG for the community to use, there isn't a pressing need for me to upload my own, though I'll be happy to do so if anyone else wants smaller sheets.
Update: I have completed all of the sheets, including a first round of proofreading and a format check. I'll conduct the second round of proofreading tomorrow, after which time I'll convert each of the files to .pdf (they're currently .docx) and submit them to the BGG. Once (if) they are approved, I'll post the links here. There will likely be some errors, so I expect to see other members identify them either here, at the BGG, or both. I'll make any necessary corrections and update the files at the BGG.
Note that I'll also post some pictures comparing the official sheets and mine, including printing them at 100% (the actual size on the files) and scaling them to fit the page (which is how I normally print them). The intent there is to show how closely they resemble the official files as well as to highlight where I have incorporated differences to ensure that no one mistakes them for official files.
I made two changes on sheets:
Hell's Vengeance 1 CD Linxia (Enforcer): The second core power starts as "When you play a boon that has the Corrupted or Shield ([] or Heavy Armor) trait for its power, shuffle a random card..." This is different from the basic power and the corresponding power on the Knight of the Rack role, which reads (using the basic power wording) "When you play a boon that has the Corrupted or Shield trait for its power, you may shuffle a random card" (emphasis added).
I couldn't find anywhere where the designers indicated that this was a deliberate change. I don't recall any other character power changing the basic wording on a role card in a way that changes the functionality. I recall one character whose wording changed to accommodate role feats, but the functionality didn't change (I can't recall which character this was off the top of my head, but I'm looking). The removal of "you may" in the Enforcer role power is a functional change. Does anyone recall/know of any explanation for this change that was given by the designers? I don't recall it coming up during the Core Character Conversion project (though I'm searching through that lengthy discussion). In fact, we kept the "...you may..." wording in that power in the sheets for that project.
Occult Adventures 2 Yoon (basic and both roles): The first power lists the "...Attack, Fire and Magic traits..." I have added the Oxford comma after Fire ("...Attack, Fire, and Magic traits..."). This is not a functional change, but aligns the formatting with the usage on all of the other character sheets.
Update: I printed a few of the sheets as tests, comparing them to the official sheets, and decided that I needed to tweak the format. That took a little bit of work, but all of the sheets are [almost] completed. I'm just performing one final proofreading before submitting them to the Board Game Geek. The BGG file descriptions will list where the files differ from the printed cards, either providing an explanation (for the three changes I have made) or a link to the official FAQ (for the four changes that Paizo/Lone Shark made).
I found one additional issue...
Occult Adventures 2 Mavaro (Ghost Hunter): The core power uses the following wording in the first power: "...to acquire that card..." That power refers to the top card of Mavaro's deck. The Ghost Hunter role changes that wording to "...to acquire the top card of your deck..." Since both the core power and the Hoarder version use the same wording, I am assuming that the Ghost Hunter wording is an oversight, an earlier version of the power's wording that was fixed on the character card and the other role, but missed here. There is no change in functionality, so it looks like the Ghost Hunter version was viewed as inefficient. So I've used the "...to acquire that card..." wording.
I hope to have proofreading completed today/tomorrow, with BGG submissions taking place within 24 hours. Time for BGG approval varies, but typically takes 96 hours or less (usually less, but I can't make any promises about someone else's availability).
One thing I noticed, but didn't do anything about, was that Nok-Nok (Tha Fith Gawd) has a hand size 5 □6 □7 □9. I didn't see any discussion on the forums about it. It just seems to me that the 9 should be an 8. Like I said, though, I didn't change the 9. I'm just bringing it up in case anyone knows why the progression skips the 8.
Excellent catch, jenceslav!
Thanks for find that, Jenceslav. I didn't even think to research the other Goblin characters.
It's a good thing I didn't change anything on Nok-Nok's sheet. ;)
The sheets are all available at the Board Game Geek. Clicking the deck name below will take you to that deck's entry at the Board Game Geek. Clicking "file" will take you directly to the page for my sheets. Keep in mind that other members have also uploaded their own versions of the sheets and you may prefer theirs to mine.
Hell's Vengeance 1 >> file >> Lazzero (Cleric); Linxia (Hellknight); Urgraz (Antipaladin)
Hell's Vengeance 2 >> file >> Emil (Assassin); Nyctessa (Wizard); Zelhara (Inquisitor)
Hunter >> file >> Adowyn, Korundo, Ukuja
Magus >> file >> Seltyiel, Talitha, Zvarbel
Occult Adventures 1 >> file >> Estra (Spiritualist); Meligaster (Mesmerist); Rivani (Psychic)
Occult Adventures 2 >> file >> Erasmus (Medium); Mavaro (Occultist); Yoon (Kineticist)
Pathfinder Tales >> file >> Celeste (Sorcerer); Radovan (Rogue); Varian (Wizard)
Ultimate Combat >> file >> Hayato (Samurai)
Ultimate Equipment >> file >> Reiko (Ninja)
Ultimate Intrigue >> file >> Aric/The Red Raven (Vigilante)
Ultimate Magic >> file >> Enora (Arcanist)
Ultimate Wilderness >> file >> Zova (Shifter)
Kingmaker Promo >> file >> Nok-Nok (Goblin Godthief)
The one change I might make is to decrease the line width from .5 pt to .25 pt. This is not an important change, however, so will be done either as errors are corrected or as I find time.
As always, identification of errors is appreciated so that the cards can be corrected.
Thank you for sharing these!
I'm curious whether you have considered taking an additional step to update the wording on these to Core. I may be way off, but it seems like that would be a much smaller task than getting the character sheets completed with original wording.
We already took care of that here. ;)
Believe me, it was much easier and faster to do this than it was to convert them to Core wording. The only "hard" part about this little project was getting the format.
Or are you suggesting using the original format with the Core wording? That can be done, too, I suppose.
No, just projecting, I suppose. For me, getting something looking that good would take me far longer than editing the wording to say "local character" instead of "character at your location" and such and check the Core Conversion site.
I greatly prefer this style character sheet and thus haven't wanted to use the Core-style converted sheets someone made.
I can use this format with the Core wording for all of the classic characters. It will take some time, however. I'll post updates. Are there any in particular that you would prefer be done first?
No, but thanks for asking!
I'm still working on the sheets for the Core characters (both the official characters and the classic characters) in the classic format, but that's a back burner item. In the meantime, I uploaded some images of the "missing" character sheets to the BGG. I actually submitted images for all of them, but the BGG only accepted a few, rejecting the rest on some 80%/20% criteria (I don't understand it, but it doesn't seem to be a hill worth dying on). So for anyone that is wondering what the latest sheets look like, here are some links:
Hell's Vengeance 1: Linxia and Urgraz
Hell's Vengeance 2: Zelhara
Ultimate Intrigue: Aric/The Red Raven
Ultimate Magic: Enora
Ultimate Wilderness: Zova
Those are screenshots from the Microsoft Word documents, trimmed down to the same dimensions as the .pdf versions (8.5" wide by 5.5" high, the same as the official sheets). On the screen, the .pdfs can look slightly different, but they print true. The only reason I can think of for them to not print true is if the lack of the Dax and Dax Pro fonts causes one's computer to use other fonts, which would throw formatting off a bit. If anyone finds that to be the case, I'll upload the files in image format, locking the proper formatting in.