Monk Scaled Fist and Combat Style DC


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Draconic Might:
"Any of the scaled fist’s class abilities that make calculations based on her Wisdom (INCLUDING BONUS FEATS with DCs or uses per day, such as Stunning Fist, but not Wisdom-based skills or Will saving throws) are instead based on her Charisma."

This means that if for example i get a Scorpion Style as Monk Bonus Feat the "speed is reduced to 5 feet for a number of rounds equal to your Wisdom" becomes "number of rounds equal to your Charisma"? and the Fortitude saving DC would be 10 + 1/2 your character level + your CHA modifier instead Wis?


A feat is not necessarily a class ability, RAW I would say this doesn't change the Scorpion Style to Cha, but it's strongly implied to meant to.


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AwesomenessDog wrote:
A feat is not necessarily a class ability, RAW I would say this doesn't change the Scorpion Style to Cha, but it's strongly implied to meant to.

The description dont talk only about class abilities, but say:

"(Including bonus feat with DCs or uses per day, such as Stunning Fist, but not Wisdom-based skills or Will saving throws) are instead based on her Charisma."


I think you are correct.
It only explicitly excludes the wisdom skill check and will saving throw. Even though "number of rounds equal to modifier" is not given in the brackets, but i guess there is no special reason to exclude it too, since it is also a calculation based on wisdom

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Yes, you are correct.

It can lead to some weirdness, though. If you take Scorpion Style with a monk bonus feat, you use Charisma instead of Wisdom for those calculations. If you then take Gorgon’s Fist with another monk bonus feat, it’s Charisma as well. But if you take Gorgon’s Fist with a regular (odd-level) feat, it would be Wisdom-based.

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