Remaster Grab feedback


Pathfinder Second Edition General Discussion


So my group has been playing with the Rage of Elements remastered Grab (and Improved Grab) rules for the last few months. Instead of automatically grabbing a creature they just hit, they let the monster make a Grapple check against the target with no multiple attack penalty.

They're...a lot. Monsters higher level than the PCs with improved grab in particular have been somewhat nightmarish since they critically succeed on the grapple check most of the time and restrain PCs rather than just grabbing them. You haven't lived until you get opportunity attacked by a linnorm at reach 20 feet and get restrained before you even get a chance to attack it...

I absolutely understand why the change was implemented (and it's a buff against monsters lower level than the PCs, let me be clear!), but I'm curious if others have had similar experiences and what people think about the change.


You confirned my worries regarding this rule. I'm somewhat skittish about implementing it at my table, especially with a caster using summoning spells.

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