Can a monk use a monk weapon with mountain stance using the monastic weaponry feat?
The only reason I ask is the feat says certain monk abilities can't be used with weapons, such as crane stance.
My player keeps using mountain stance with a bo staff and getting a 10 feet reach. He insists it says he can, but I'm not 100% sure.
Help?
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The only Strikes you can make are falling stone unarmed attacks.
You can't make a Strike with a bo staff while in Mountain Stance because it wouldn't be an unarmed attack at all, let alone the required falling stone unarmed attack.
Monastic Weaponry doesn't help since its last paragraph specifically excludes such things.
Okay. This was what I thought, but I needed other knowledgeable people to affirm it. Thanks.
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You should be 100% sure because he's 100% wrong.
Mountain Stance:
"The only Strikes you can make are falling stone unarmed attacks."
The Crane Stance has similar wording.
Monastic Weaponry does not override this, and specifically says requirements to use a specific Strike still remain. It's explicit and your player's insistence reflects poorly on him.
Technically, Monks in these stances can use a weapon, just not for Strikes. So he could Trip or Parry w/ the Bo Staff. But never Strike w/ any weapon while in a Stance that allows only one specific unarmed Strike.
Or one interpretation could be if they do use a different Strike, they lose the stance.
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You should be 100% sure because he's 100% wrong.
Mountain Stance:
"The only Strikes you can make are falling stone unarmed attacks."
The Crane Stance has similar wording.Monastic Weaponry does not override this, and specifically says requirements to use a specific Strike still remain. It's explicit and your player's insistence reflects poorly on him.
Technically, Monks in these stances can use a weapon, just not for Strikes. So he could Trip or Parry w/ the Bo Staff. But never Strike w/ any weapon while in a Stance that allows only one specific unarmed Strike.
Or one interpretation could be if they do use a different Strike, they lose the stance.
That interpretation seems to be Paizo's. From page 637 (edit: also on page 157, in the monk class section):
'A stance lasts until you get knocked out, until its requirements (if any) are violated, until the encounter ends, or until you enter a new stance, whichever comes first.'