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I am excite.
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To everyone's shock and surprise, I loved this, I will go see it again this weekend, and, in my completely objective opinion, anyone who doesn't like it is a joyless poopyhead.
Also, yes, ending near credits and mid credits confirms that thing many of us knew was coming and also THAT THING that many of you wanted.
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I did not expect to enjoy THE MARVELS as much as I did. I did not care for CAPTAIN MARVEL. It's the only Marvel movie that I watched only once. But I enjoyed Brie Larson as Carol waaaaaaaaaay more in this movie. It's a TIGHT hour and forty-five minutes (I think) and it's both FUN and FUNNY.
The only real problem with the film IMHO, is that it moves SO fast it doesn't take the time to process some of the real and heartfelt emotional beats (and there are more than a few of them).
I love that Carol was the combat monster/tank, Monica was the science nerd and effective brains of the outfit and Kamala was the HEART of the team. And make no mistake, Kamala (and her family to an extent) are the MVPs of this film. Also? GOOSE.
It has a relatively weak villain but her motivations are completely understandable and born out of desperation. The movie is less about antagonism than it is about the consequences of rash actions.
Also, there's a bit just before the end credits and another during the mid-credits sequence that legitimately has me excited in a way that I have not been since pre-AVENGERS ENDGAME.
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To everyone's shock and surprise, I loved this
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I did not expect to enjoy THE MARVELS as much as I did. I did not care for CAPTAIN MARVEL. It's the only Marvel movie that I watched only once. But I enjoyed Brie Larson as Carol waaaaaaaaaay more in this movie. It's a TIGHT hour and forty-five minutes (I think) and it's both FUN and FUNNY.
The only real problem with the film IMHO, is that it moves SO fast it doesn't take the time to process some of the real and heartfelt emotional beats (and there are more than a few of them).
This is an entirely fair statement. They could have dug a little deeper, but I prefer this to either not digging deeper and padding the movie with more action sequences, or attempting to have deeper moments and not getting them to carry off.
I *did* like the 1st Captain Marvel a lot, but I agree that Brie Larson is more enjoyable, and experienced Carol is more interesting, unsurprisingly, than amnesiac, Kree-brainwashed Carol (which mind the flaw in that was perhaps the premise).
One of the areas where I wish they dug deeper was into her memory recovery process but I do like that they touched on it a few times at least.
I love that Carol was the combat monster/tank, Monica was the science nerd and effective brains of the outfit and Kamala was the HEART of the team. And make no mistake, Kamala (and her family to an extent) are the MVPs of this film. Also? GOOSE.
Yes yes yes, and moreover, I think the way you solve all the MCU's problems and stop Kang is rather than give random Skrull chick all the powers, give them to Muneeba Khan and then have Kang just glance once menacingly at her family.
And That Scene with the Flerkens, oh my god. I have never laughed so hard during a Marvel film, and for all the right reasons. The soundtrack choice could not have been better.
It has a relatively weak villain but her motivations are completely understandable and born out of desperation. The movie is less about antagonism than it is about the consequences of rash actions.
Yes yes yes again.
The movie should have opened not on Dar-Benn getting the band, but on the Kree people on Hala under a darkened sky, dying of dehydration, struggling to breath, and then them cursing an effigy of Carol. And THEN you see Dar-Benn swearing to save them and getting the bangle. It would have better set up the stakes she was fighting for (however wrongly) and made the audience much more curious about who was in the right or wrong and what had happened.
I thought the action sequences were good, and I really liked how each had a similar spectrum of powers (pun absolutely intended), they each had their own way of using them.
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I love that Carol was the combat monster/tank, Monica was the science nerd and effective brains of the outfit and Kamala was the HEART of the team. And make no mistake, Kamala (and her family to an extent) are the MVPs of this film. Also? GOOSE.
I did not expect, at all, that Amir would make me laugh out loud twice during this movie,
Plus, as always, that cat was great.
I do kind of wish there'd been some foreshadowing of Kamala rescuing a teen kid of the Skrull leader or something, that could at least hype a possible appearance of Teddy / Dorrek VIII someday in the future, along with Kamala, Kate, Cassie, etc.
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Speaking of Amir, I loved the exchange with Nick Fury (and yes, I am going to call him Nick):
Amir: *swiftly praying in Arabic*
Nick: Are you praying?!?
Amir: *stops*
Nick: Don't stop! We need all the help we can get!
Amir: *resumes*
Nick: Amen! Amen!
I saw this movie with my wife on Wednesday, because the trailer looked fun and we'd seen the three main characters' previous features. I'm very glad we did! I don't follow every MCU obsessively like I used to before Endgame, but it was fun to revisit the universe and see how things have advanced.
Speaking of which, my wife and I both thought that we saw that the Statue of Liberty had a copper color instead of the off-green color she has nowadays. Is this a reference to something that happened in a previous MCU flick?
I also liked the two post-credit scenes, especially the 2nd. I knew that this was coming, but I did not expect them to take their sweet time with it.
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It's a strange thing... very few people seem to be going to the movie, but most people who do say they liked it.
Yes, IIRC something happened to Lady Liberty in the last Spider-Man flick (which I never saw) triggering a rebuilding/refurbishing, and so she is cleansed of her verdigris. (She should eventually regreenify, of course.)
I saw the movie a second time last week and enjoyed it again. I do stand by the opinion that they needed to set up Dar-Benn in a dramatically different way than they did, and emphasize the suffering of the Kree, so that we better feel the weight of both Dar-Benn's goals and Carol's guilt.
But for any flaws, I still found myself grinning ear to ear through most of the film.
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Yeah, my wife and I agreed that the villain was a weak point in the movie, but the rest of the movie was fun enough that we're overlooking it.
I disagree since animated features are still a draw for many people...
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Animated films are definitely second tier for me at best.
There’s just no comparison for me between a cartoon super hero or Star Wars film and an actual live action one.
I LOVE Spiderman, for example, and I’ve seen every movie with Tom Holland’s Spiderman multiple times (at least once or twice in the theater in every case) but I have not watched more than a few minutes of any of the Sony spiderverse cartoons and I have zero interest in doing so.
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We're going OT, but... I'm not going to debate the merits of animated versus live action overall per se... but I will say that Spider-Verse, which by the numbers clearly has an adequate audience to support it, specifically benefits from being animated in that the shifts in animation style are brilliant ways to reflect the different universes---and homages along the way to different comic artists. It doesn't mean everyone is going to want to watch it (I have yet to learn of a movie "everyone" wants to watch), but I don't think it would have benefited from being live action, or rather, if it had been, we would have lost out on some of the artistic choices that aid its storytelling and make it stand out.
And its willingness to be experimental and expressive is I think why it has been resistant to what many oversimplify as "Marvel fatigue" or "superhero fatigue."
Speaking of which, Screencrush has a recent video digging into the concept of Marvel fatigue and why it's flawed that I found worth checking out (including how and why the Marvels--and many superhero movies--suffered).
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I'll go there. Spiderverse is a legit work of fine art. The animation is brilliant and amazing. It supports the storytelling in a way that live action wouldn't. And the story is so much more nerdy and comic booky than any live action movie.
As for The Marvels, it is fine. Act 1 was great. Iman Vellani is AMAZING as a person, as a fan, as an actor. I enjoyed it, but I am an easy get for any comic book movie. I loved the family. Act 1 was good. Act 2 was fine. Act 3 was weak. Captain Marvel does an awesome Silver Age Superman sort of thing that is yada yada and should have been a big deal.
Ultimately putting these three characters in the same movie is probably too much too soon. But at least Nick is back to being Nick. Lord, Secret Invasion was bad. I'm deleting that from my mind canon.
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Soundtrack for spider verse is absolutely amazing. Absolutely amazing.
And animation as second tier? HA!
I'll go there. Spiderverse is a legit work of fine art. The animation is brilliant and amazing. It supports the storytelling in a way that live action wouldn't. And the story is so much more nerdy and comic booky than any live action movie.
Yeah, if it weren't animated, then it couldn't have been as good as it was. Both the first movie and the sequel.
Well that might be A BIT much, Them, but I WILL agree it's better than some recent offerings.
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Perhaps, and it's certainly just my own opinion for sure but the two Spiderverse animated films, in my eyes at least rise well above the rest nearing the lofty heights of cinema and storytelling.
They're funny, touching, exciting, and masterfully animated. Now mind, there are plenty of really good Marvel live-action films but none of them hold up very well with age and mostly seem to exist to chug out schlock to feed the MCU with new annual additions, especially the stuff dropped after Infinity War (Though I'll offer an exception for the GoG films which are all extremely solid on their own).
Understood, Them. You're entitled to that.
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Got to see The Marvels today and it was a lot of fun.
but somehow I doubt all of those Kittens are accounted for at the end.
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I'm sure Goose will round them up eventually. ;)
I just watched the "Assembled: Making of" episode for the Marvels and I really loved seeing how they did so much of the stuff (the bits on the space soundtrack and how they did the space flights with the cockpit on a gimbal facing a giant curved LED screen were particularly fascinating to me). Some of these episodes I find a bit boring but I enjoyed it. I also get the sense from what some folks were saying there was a better movie on the cutting room floor. And, I mean, I loved this movie, but it brushes the surface on a lot of things they could have dug deeper on (and had some time to do so).