Spiritualist Fused Consciousness

[yonman17]

Fused Consciousness (Su)
At 10th level, a spiritualist always gains the benefits of bonded senses when her phantom is manifested. She also gains the skill ranks and bonus to mind-affecting spells granted by the spirit’s emotional focus, even when her phantom is manifested. Lastly, she can shunt the effect of a mind-affecting effect into the consciousness of her phantom as the shared consciousness ability even when the phantom is manifested, but doing so causes the phantom to immediately retreat back into the spiritualist’s consciousness.

I assume the skill ranks is referring to the Skill Focus the spiritualist gains when fused with his consciousness and not the actual ranks/HD the phantom receives correct?

[Melkiador]

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The phantom also gains two class skills based on its emotional focus. The phantom automatically gains bonus ranks in these two skills as the spiritualist increases in level—its number of ranks in these skills is always equal to its number of Hit Dice.

I'm pretty sure the spiritualist actually gains the bonus ranks.

[yonman17]

Melkiador wrote:

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The phantom also gains two class skills based on its emotional focus. The phantom automatically gains bonus ranks in these two skills as the spiritualist increases in level—its number of ranks in these skills is always equal to its number of Hit Dice.

I'm pretty sure the spiritualist actually gains the bonus ranks.

So the Spiritualist would get the bonus skill ranks equal to the Spiritualist's HD plus Skill Focus in the associated ranks?

[Melkiador]

As written no Skill Focus.

I feel like my answer was "right" given the text we have, but reading it over multiple times I do wonder about what was intended. My guess is that the ability got rewritten a few times before being published and fused consciousness just doesn't reflect the text we ended up with.

[Diego Rossi]

Note that it doesn't say that they are added, it says that you gain then.
Considering how gaining skills works, that means that the spiritualist and the phantom's ranks overlap.

So, if the Phantom has an emotional focus of Anger, when the Spiritualist level reaches 10, its ranks in Intimidate and Survival are 8.
Let's say that the spiritualist never cared about Survival but used extensively Intimidate and maximized it. The Spiritualist will have 0 ranks in Survival and 10 in intimidate.
The combination of the two will give the character 8 skill ranks in Survival and 10 in Intimidate (plus the bonuses from Skill focus, Class, Stats, other Feats, and Traits).

[yonman17]

Diego Rossi wrote:

Note that it doesn't say that they are added, it says that you gain then.

Considering how gaining skills works, that means that the spiritualist and the phantom's ranks overlap.

So, if the Phantom has an emotional focus of Anger, when the Spiritualist level reaches 10, its ranks in Intimidate and Survival are 8.
Let's say that the spiritualist never cared about Survival but used extensively Intimidate and maximized it. The Spiritualist will have 0 ranks in Survival and 10 in intimidate.
The combination of the two will give the character 8 skill ranks in Survival and 10 in Intimidate (plus the bonuses from Skill focus, Class, Stats, other Feats, and Traits).

I might just give them full ranks as the spiritualist's HD. just seems easier to keep track of

[Diego Rossi]

yonman17 wrote:

Diego Rossi wrote:

Note that it doesn't say that they are added, it says that you gain then.

Considering how gaining skills works, that means that the spiritualist and the phantom's ranks overlap.

So, if the Phantom has an emotional focus of Anger, when the Spiritualist level reaches 10, its ranks in Intimidate and Survival are 8.
Let's say that the spiritualist never cared about Survival but used extensively Intimidate and maximized it. The Spiritualist will have 0 ranks in Survival and 10 in intimidate.
The combination of the two will give the character 8 skill ranks in Survival and 10 in Intimidate (plus the bonuses from Skill focus, Class, Stats, other Feats, and Traits).

I might just give them full ranks as the spiritualist's HD. just seems easier to keep track of

Phantom wrote:

The phantom also gains two class skills based on its emotional focus. The phantom automatically gains bonus ranks in these two skills as the spiritualist increases in level—its number of ranks in these skills is always equal to its number of Hit Dice.

The Phantom has 8 HD while the Spiritualist is level 10.