Arcanist archeyptes, am I correct you can't take both of these?

[Senko]

I'm dabbling with an arcanist build and I noticed in Herolab I can take both the blood arcanist (replaces 1st level exploit) and Mgambyan initiate (replaces 1st level exploit). I just want to confirm this is an error in the program and not some ruling I've missed that would let you take both.

Blood Arcanist.
Magaambyan Initiate.

[zza ni]

yea, you are right. can't mash them.

my thought? hero lab has the base sorcerer bloodline class ability tagged as 'can be replaced by archtype ability' and since the blood arcanist get said base sorcerer class abilities the hero lab automatically set it as 'can be replaced' without noticing it is already a replacement.

if im right hero lab would also allow blood arcanist to mash with other archtypes that replace said abilities.

[Senko]

Makes sense thanks, shame my hopes are dashed but I thought they were meant to not be combineable.

[zza ni]

i can see a kind gm homebrew a rule that the blood arcanist is viewed as the base class and anything the other archtype replace can be traded for it (but not geting both abilities of same level).

worth to ask.

[Tom Sampson]

You are correct, though you can ask your GM.

As for your hopes, you can still use the Eldritch Heritage feat followed by Improved Eldritch Heritage and Greater Eldritch Heritage (however, the charisma requirements might not be awkward), play a Variant Multiclass Sorcerer to add its bloodline powers to your Arcanist, or simply take the Bloodline Development Arcanist exploit and dip 1 level of Sorcerer. This last one has the benefit of granting you access to cross-blooded and wildblooded variants.

[Senko]

Tom Sampson wrote:

You are correct, though you can ask your GM.

As for your hopes, you can still use the Eldritch Heritage feat followed by Improved Eldritch Heritage and Greater Eldritch Heritage (however, the charisma requirements might not be awkward), play a Variant Multiclass Sorcerer to add its bloodline powers to your Arcanist, or simply take the Bloodline Development Arcanist exploit and dip 1 level of Sorcerer. This last one has the benefit of granting you access to cross-blooded and wildblooded variants.

Thanks its more just the flavour for the Mgambyan initiate and I don't need to actually take the archetype for that. Just wanted to confirm that you can't take both.