Thaumaturge: scroll thaumaturgy confusion


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I am unsure if this has been addressed or not but I am looking for an answer. When you activate a spell attack scroll as a thaumaturge, what is your spell attack modifier? Using pathbuilder it only shows my charisma modifier for the attack roll modifier.

Any official information will be most appreciated.


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Not specifically stated in the feat, which, only addresses spell DC being Class DC (and so there isn't an official answer), but it's fairly trivial to say that (Class DC - 10) is the appropriate number to use.


technically the ability only gives you Class DC for the Spell based saves, and mentions nothing about the attack rolls.

so it's a bit nebulous.

although we can extrapolate from the general rule that says that a certain DC is just that "check modifier+10" (so Fort DC is Forch check+10 and etc)

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Whenever you attempt a check, you compare your result against a DC. When someone or something else attempts a check against you, rather than both forces rolling against one another, the GM (or player, if the opponent is another PC) compares their result to a fixed DC based on your relevant statistic. Your DC for a given statistic is 10 + the total modifier for that statistic.

and given that the section for spell attacks and spell DCs says that:

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Spell attack roll result = d20 roll + ability modifier used for spellcasting + proficiency bonus + other bonuses + penalties

Spell DC = 10 + ability modifier used for spellcasting + proficiency bonus + other bonuses + penalties

which adheres to the above general rule, we can sorta guess that RAI is probably using your class check modifier (which would be your Class DC-10)

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This info was already missing in the class playtest. The author, Mark Seifter, clarified then that it was indeed Class DC-10.

It is a bit disappointing that the info is still missing from the final release of the class.

EDIT - Found the post here

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