Multiple Kingdom Turns back to back

[Chris_Fougere]

We're still a little ways off from getting to the Kingdom part of things in our game but I like to be prepared.

One of the things I was looking at was doing multiple kingdom turns in the initial setup to show some time passing as the kingdom gets established. I want the players to make choices so I'm going to play through the turns rather than just time skip and give them a starting position.

I do plan to use another suggestion about leveling the Kingdom with the PCs rather than having a whole separate other XP grind so by the time the first Kingdom phase (representing several turns) is over the Kingdom will be of a level equal to the party and grow from there.

My question is, has anyone else done this? If so how many turns of building did you find worked well?

[VanceMadrox]

I'm planning on giving them a year and a day before any plots events happen.

We'll still roll for random kingdom events though.

[Chris_Fougere]

VanceMadrox wrote:

I'm planning on giving them a year and a day before any plots events happen.

We'll still roll for random kingdom events though.

That was my thought as well. Do full Kingdom turns, including the possibility of events, for the set up phase of 6-12 months.

[VanceMadrox]

The party should be level 4 when they get their Kingdom so it'd be pretty easy to just level the Kingdom by 1 after each 4 months during that Initial year.

So the Kingdom hits Level 2 after Turn 4. Level 3 after Turn 8, and Level 4 after Turn 12.

[Orion Paxis]

VanceMadrox wrote:

The party should be level 4 when they get their Kingdom so it'd be pretty easy to just level the Kingdom by 1 after each 4 months during that Initial year.

So the Kingdom hits Level 2 after Turn 4. Level 3 after Turn 8, and Level 4 after Turn 12.

Vance, is that leveling rate based on your amended rules docs? (Which are very helpful by the way. Thank you for all the work you and Kerenshara put into them).

[VanceMadrox]

That leveling is based on Chris Fougere wanting the Kingdom to level automatically.

Leveling when using my amended rules will depend a lot on what the party does.
In Sims though the kingdom is at least level 3, and sometimes level 4 by the end of the first year.

[Snake0202]

I know the PCs have to spend 1 week a month attending to their duties, but if you do a "time skip" and do 12 campaign turns back to back. Would you give them 252 days of downtime to spend? I feel like they could accumulate decent amount of money earning a living (and basically living for free as rulers of their capital)

[VanceMadrox]

That's completely up to you!
I think it's fine to give them that much downtime.

[Chris_Fougere]

Snake0202 wrote:

I know the PCs have to spend 1 week a month attending to their duties, but if you do a "time skip" and do 12 campaign turns back to back. Would you give them 252 days of downtime to spend? I feel like they could accumulate decent amount of money earning a living (and basically living for free as rulers of their capital)

It'll likely be 9 turns so the return to live play will be when the Kingdom is level 4 but that depends on what level they are when they found it.

In terms of money it's not that much really. Until the Kingdom is level 4 they still need to pay for standard of living, which can easily be narrated as needing to fund things out of pocket until established.

The monetary amounts for Earn Income are quite meager at the lower levels and assuming the following

a) Paying for a comfortable standard of living
b) Earning Income 5 days/week
c) Spending one week per month on position duties

It's a total of about 33gp. They'd probably earn more by exploring the map over that time.