Greater camouflage dye


Rules Discussion


regular camouphlage dye:

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Camouflage dye uses a variety of alchemically treated paints and crushed crystals to make the user particularly hard to distinguish from their surroundings. When you Activate the dye by sprinkling it on yourself or a creature within reach, the target and its clothing change colors, blending into their surroundings until the target makes a sudden movement. The target can Hide or Sneak without cover or concealment for 10 minutes. If the target uses a hostile action or moves at more than half its Speed, after that action is completed, the effects of camouflage powder end and the creature ceases to be hidden or undetected.

greater:

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The dye lasts 1 minute, and the effects don't end if the target uses a hostile action or moves at more than half its Speed.

durations and effects seem to be parallel with invisibility (2nd) and invisibility (4th), with the obvious downside of it requiring stealth as well.

but my main question is about the "effect" and in turn what doesn't end in the greater version.

is this like imp invisibility where once you are hidden you don't become visible, or is the "effect" refering to the ability to keep stealthing after the hostile action?

in short, is the effect just "you can hide" or does it include the hide as well?

normally i would have read that as the effect is just the fact you can hide, but what i've bolded in the main camouphlage dye makes me wonder if the hide effect is included in there as well.


The effects in question are "the target can hide or sneak without cover or concealment"

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