A genocidal Grimm is evil perspective?

[XXSUPERHEROXX]

I remember when Grimm first aired. the doer of good fighting the evil monsters. A show about fairy tales and monsters. I remember hours of fun on the IMDB message board talking about how evil the Grimms were.

I am a notorious Shipper I shipped Trip and T'Pol on startrek.com. So when Adalind made eye contact with the Grimm in the very first episode I was hooked and there is where the ship began it's journey. A hexenbiest and a Grimm the whole site went sideways. and so the argument of being born inherently evil as a race or is evil raised to be evil.

Evil is in how things are perceived in this case a history of a genocidal magical race hunting down and killing all Wesen. Yes the Hero a genocidal killer of innocent Wesen. A century old war between the human race and the Wesen most of whom just want to live out their lives not getting killed by a crazy blood thirty Grimm. Poor little Wesen children raise to fear the black eyes evil Grimms and for good rason the Grimms were genocidal mass murders of thousands even millions of Wesen.

Throughout the show poor Adalind was so abused by her mother, Captain Renard, the royals and yes even the blood line of Nicks! They stole her first born child.

It has a lot to do with the us and them frame of mind we are all raised to believe in. We are the good people those people over there are the bad people. We are raised to hate those other "evil" people as they raise their children to hate us the evil people doers here.

In the end Adalind was a good mother and a good mate to the Grimm as the Grimm crusaders of old took Hexenbiest wives. The Grimm powers came from mating with the hexenbiest the same with the royals. Adalind was awesome a fine intelligent educated woman who raise two next generation Genocide Grimm crusaders!

In World of Warcraft there is the Horde and the Alliance both sides work as societies I do not see why we can't have Horde style Player Characters. I see a lot of people on youtube express their off opinion about how evil campaigning always goes horrible wrong. The GameMaster has a set perspective on horde style Player characters their all evil and eat babies alive so they sabotage giving the impression that if you are truly evil you are unworthy of trust and in the end you will turn on your party because that is what inherently evil people do. If you are not in this list of aproved good creatures then what ever you pick is evil.

So we do not get to play Drow or Trolls like in World of Warcraft or NeverWinter. Pathfinder did away with a lot of player characters with the new release of edition 2. I don't know maybe people are just inherently evil and can't get past the evil they wish to do hence the game designers did away with the player character races they perceive as inherently evil. We are so use to doing evil we no longer perceive ourselves doing it. "I had to pick the lesser of the two evils" By picking one you did evil you just rationalized it justified it then you downgraded doing evil to something less then evil. Never thinking not picking either was the right option.

I miss my female troll warrior. two Greataxes one in each hand neon purple hair braided a she hulk of death I killed many alliance players. The closest I can get to her here is a sad little orc. arrgggg the humanity. Oh well bluh bluh bluh.

[Goth Guru]

It's a question of control. A humanoid is
1. Less than half human
2. Has character levels right from the start.

If they start with all their hit dice from a difficulty class, instincts rather than learned behavior, and a type that is non humanoid, they are 100% monster. A were creature is a part time monster. You could argue an infant is a monster, but when it becomes self aware, usually after it learns to walk, talk, and gets it's first full character hit dice, it becomes a person.

Monsters can become awakened, purposefully or accidentally. That's why some familiars retain their special abilities even when separated from their human or humanoid. Likewise some animal companions and exotic mounts. You could run a campaign anywhere with awakened monsters. The comic "Rusty and company" is basically that.

[XXSUPERHEROXX]

Dooo deee doooo oh hello there Damn glad to see you here and posting! awesome! I was beginning to wonder it is weird how my posts seem to be in a magic maze of ever-changing parameters. Anywho I Digress.

Let discuss! Oh the joy of good old debating and discussion of topics it is in part of what makes us sentient life-forms. The term monster is a derogatory term a creature that is typically large, ugly, and frightening I know a lot of humans that fit that description. It boils down to the us and them upbringing we get from own society. It is our small mindedness that is the issue on so many levels and is continually perpetuated. I mean I love Chevy trucks because my dad told me "there the best and ford sucks." Do Ford truck suck in my opinion yes why because I was educated by my father that they suck do they really no they are good trucks.
We call things animals, but they are all in some way sentient beings that we are just not smart enough to communicate with yet. In the future we might finally communicate with the life-forms and find out that they are way smarter then us.
A baby is born it is not a monster you just can't speak with it because it has not yet learned to use its vocal cords it has spent 9 months lessoning though. is it evil? No evil is raised and indoctrinated into the beliefs of the society it is raised in. It is raised to believe the religion, politics, social behaviors. We Americans are educated with a politicly controlled system. We were indoctrinated. I remember having to say the pledge of allegiance having to practice duck and cover because the evil people over there are going to bomb us. Our history was altered we were lied to our entire lives. We were molded into what we are as adults.

When you say things like Less then half human it shows a form of bigotry it is not half human it is less then half. if you look at Elves they are humanoid as are Dwarfs, Gnomes and such. The Drow are Humanoid's as well they are not "Monsters" they are sentient beings with a history and working society they are highly educated and are not born inherently evil. The word humanoid defines as "having human form or characteristics."
Animals are self-aware all animals could be considered intelligent. Animals are able to learn and, in other words, adapt to their environment.
Take for example my Half Fire Giant half human his father was a captured lawful good fighter he was made a slave to fire giants he breed with a female fire giant she gave birth and then she helped the fighter and child escape. The human fighter raises the half fire giant half human to be Lawful good raised in a military way as all fire giants. Given his upbringing he would be a lawful good person with no evil alignment. No more human then fire giant he would simply be a person. Granted the society it which it was raised in would determine his personality hatred, intolerance, bigotry, selfishness, greed, religion all would be what would form the personality of the offspring.
If Xelphen my female Drow were to breed with a elf they are both elves' and if given the conception and bearing of said child were outside of the radiation of the underworld the child would be a normal white elf.

It is nice to have an intelligent conversation about things. I am sorry if this did not read will I am not trying to offend. I am grateful for your time you spent writing and I look forward to reading you and other players thoughts on alternative player character creations. Thank you for responding!

[Goth Guru]

I know not all monsters are evil. I think babies have no detectable alignment, because they are on autopilot. I don't remember anything before I was 5 or 6. While I think cats are fully sentient, the rules say otherwise. Cats, Foxes, and Dolphins should be a lot more intelligent than typical animals.

Wesen in the show, seem to be almost all sentient. As they choose an alignment and character class, I don't think they are monsters.