Volume affected by Shrink Object.


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So Shrink Object says that it will shrink an item of up to X volume and up to Y mass. Now, is that X volume X 1 foot cubes, or is a cube X feet on a side? On the one hand, being able to shrink an object with a volume not much larger than that occupied by a typical adult human is decidedly underwhelming for a 6th level spell slot, but on the other hand, being able to affect a cube up to 16 feet on a side seems ludicrous, even for a 6th level spell.

(On a totally not related topic, how is Feral Frame power armor size Huge, but only weighs *squints at text* 50 bulk, or 250-500 pounds (~113.5-227kg for you sensible folks out there))


On the matter of bulk, I would say the answer is "applying a conversion of 1 Bulk = 5 to 10 pounds is inappropriate". Basically, that isn't a hard and fast rule and never was, it was a guideline for estimating the Bulk of small objects. For large objects that go well past what an ordinary character could be expected to throw in their backpack, the weight equivalent is probably logarithmic.

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Metaphysician wrote:
On the matter of bulk, I would say the answer is "applying a conversion of 1 Bulk = 5 to 10 pounds is inappropriate". Basically, that isn't a hard and fast rule and never was, it was a guideline for estimating the Bulk of small objects. For large objects that go well past what an ordinary character could be expected to throw in their backpack, the weight equivalent is probably logarithmic.

Issue with that is the fact that Strength is *not* logarithmic and directly correlates to how much bulk you can carry.


Its only really an issue if you try and use it for purposes not intended, is the thing. Starfinder isn't a game that concerns itself with precise measurement of weight capacity ( because no actual D&D game ever bothers to do so ), so it uses a vaguer and more practical Bulk system to measure inventory capacity of a given character. The intent is almost certainly that, if your trying to lift something for purposes *other* than "putting it in your inventory", that is supposed to be handled via Athletics skill checks, not comparisons against a weight chart.

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