Hey, I have a boon to play my 1st character as a Kobold, and have been wondering something odd, for the sake of PFS - What happens if you take the “Mixed Scales” feat from “Kobolds of Golarian”, as a Green Kobold, and used it to become a Black Kobold? It’s worth noting that my Kobold PC does not have “Draconic Aspect”, nor the “Dragon-Scaled” racial feature, yet. And as such, does not have Acid resistance 05 OR a +1 to Natural Armor. Instead, she has the “Prehensile Tail” racial feature.
Before anyone says it, I’m specifically asking for Pathfinder Society 1e. Not for home campaigns, where a solution can be homebrewed. Also, even if I don’t get natural armor, that is fine; I’m taking The feat to add Black-Scaled Kobold traits to her.
Venture-Agent, Virginia—Newport News
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Double-check the feat's prerequisites. If you do not have Draconic Aspect or Dragon-scaled, you do not meet the feat's prerequisites.
Double-check the feat's prerequisites. If you do not have Draconic Aspect or Dragon-scaled, you do not meet the feat's prerequisites.
Not what I asked. I already plan to get “Draconic Aspect” and “Mixed Scales”. Problem is, I don’t know if I just get to use Black Kobold-exclusive traits (thanks to “Extra Traits”), or if I get the +1 Natural armor, as well. Personally, I know which one makes the most sense, based on the wording. But I’d rather make sure, first.
Venture-Lieutenant, Finland—Turku
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Can you maybe rephrase or clarify your question?
Your original question was
What happens if you take the “Mixed Scales” feat from “Kobolds of Golarian”, as a Green Kobold, and used it to become a Black Kobold?
with the note that you don't meet the prerequisites, to which the correct answer is that you can't take it.
If you plan to take Draconic Aspect, that feat gives you resistance 5 to Acid (per green scaled kobold) and if you Then take Mixed Scales feat, you get to "Choose an additional color for your Draconic Aspect feat" and gain "the benefits of both this color and the color you originally chose." Since you plan to choose Black, you'll gain Resist 5 Acid... Again. Resistances don't stack, so this has 0 benefits for you.
You don't get the +1 natural armor because you don't meet the requirements for the special part of Draconic Aspect
Special: If you have the dragon-scaled racial trait, your scale color does not change and you gain a +1 natural armor bonus instead.
Nothing in either of the feats refers to being able to use Black Kobold Exclusive Traits, the only benefits they give are: Resistance to an energy based on color, and "pick another color to get another resistance" and " If you gain abilities that rely on scale color, choose which color gains the benefits" - the last bit would affect, for example, Draconic Breath feat which would let you choose between 30ft line of acid or 15ft cone of acid when you select the feat, but I'm not sure if this is what you're talking about since " Black Kobold-exclusive traits (thanks to “Extra Traits”)," sounds like something completely different, and I'm not sure what you mean by it.
If you mean the "additional traits" feat, that refers to the "background" traits and not racial traits such as dracon scaled... It might allow you to pick one of the black-scaled kobold related race traits - but I'm not entirely sure if those count as "abilities" as the feat is clearly meant for breath weapons etc - (Bog Scamp, Ooze Defense, Sneaky Swimmer - and Ooze defense is questionable since it only triggers at the start of your characters career and Alkali Flasks are 15gp a piece. By the time you're level 5 and have spent 3 feats on these it's not worth it) but I would advice against spending 3 feats just to get 1 race related trait when you could have been a black scaled kobold to begin with for all the same benefits. Also note that you can have just 1 race trait so you can't have a green scale related race trait and a black scale related race trait (nor can you have 2 traits from either colors), not even with additional traits.
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I'm not even sure if it's necessary to jump through these 3 feat hoops to gain black-scaled related race traits, since the book says:
Though some traits are common to all kobolds, the following race traits are particular to kobolds of certain colors. Note that kobolds born from two differently colored parents are colored like one parent or the other, rather than a mix of the two. Kobolds characters are not restricted from taking traits from another color, though the following traits are typical of each color, and considered prestigious.
Which very much sounds like you could have taken bog scamp or sneaky swimmer at character creation instead of spending 3 feats to get one of them.
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Double-check the feat's prerequisites. If you do not have Draconic Aspect or Dragon-scaled, you do not meet the feat's prerequisites.Not what I asked. I already plan to get “Draconic Aspect” and “Mixed Scales”. Problem is, I don’t know if I just get to use Black Kobold-exclusive traits (thanks to “Extra Traits”), or if I get the +1 Natural armor, as well. Personally, I know which one makes the most sense, based on the wording. But I’d rather make sure, first.
Any Kobold can take those traits, whether or not they have Mixed Scales.
Kobold characters are not restricted from taking traits from another color, though the following traits are typical of each color, and considered prestigious.
You do not get a +1 natural armor bonus, that benefit only applies to characters who have both Draconic Aspect and the dragon-scaled racial trait. Since both black and green Draconic Aspects grant the same thing, your total benefit would be: resist acid (5).
Yeah, the Kobold Boon makes these two legal sources, provides you follow certain restrictions. And I didn’t know that I didn’t have to take “Mixed Scales”, in order to take the black scales exclusive trait, “Sneaky Swimmer”, using “Extra Traits”. That’s useful to know, in advance. As for the lack of +1 natural armor? I had my suspicions, but wasn’t entirely sure. But anyways! Thank you all for the input! I’ll take it all into consideration, as I move forward with my character!