Inspire Courage and damage from Support


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Liberty's Edge

If the Support action of an allied Animal Companion deals damage, for example the Bear : "Until the start of your next turn, each time you hit a creature in the bear’s reach with a Strike, the creature takes 1d8 slashing damage from the bear.", does it get the +1 to damage from Inspire Courage ?

Inspire Courage : "You and all allies in the area gain a +1 status bonus to attack rolls, damage rolls, and saves against fear effects."


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Off the top of my head I don't see why not. It says it's from the bear, not added to your own damage, and the bear is an ally


Yep, if it's in the aura I don't see any issue. The damage is from the bear, so it's a separate damage roll, and the bear is most definitely an ally.


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Of course, if the bears's damage is separate, it has to deal with damage resistance separately too.

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

Liberty's Edge

Concur, while there ARE questions about how the damage is handled I think the consensus is that it is a totally separate instance of damage instead of being a bonus to your own Strike and I agree with that so I'd say it's perfectly legal.


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Ravingdork wrote:

Of course, if the bears's damage is separate, it has to deal with damage resistance separately too.

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

Resistances and weaknesses. Sometimes your cake is extra sweet ;)

I literally just had a low level game where the bear support and a sword both triggered weakness to slashing on a zombie


Aw3som3-117 wrote:

Resistances and weaknesses. Sometimes your cake is extra sweet ;)

I literally just had a low level game where the bear support and a sword both triggered weakness to slashing on a zombie

Also those "allies do 1 extra damage of xxx" abilities like the champion with good aligned damage.


The Raven Black wrote:

If the Support action of an allied Animal Companion deals damage, for example the Bear : "Until the start of your next turn, each time you hit a creature in the bear’s reach with a Strike, the creature takes 1d8 slashing damage from the bear.", does it get the +1 to damage from Inspire Courage ?

Inspire Courage : "You and all allies in the area gain a +1 status bonus to attack rolls, damage rolls, and saves against fear effects."

I've heard about both interpretations being used. Either the Bear doing completely separated damage or the Bear adding an extra die of damage.

In general, players prefer the extra die of damage, both because it's simpler to handle and stronger. Having the Bear deal it's own separated damage means double Resistance and more importantly lack of double damage on a critical hit. But it also means double bonuses to damage and double Weaknesses as a (bad) compensation.

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