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On page 15 of Ages of Ashes it suggests that PCs can use Command an Animal to change its attitude from Indifferent to Friendly.
No where under the Nature skill and Command an Animal does it say you can do this.
So how do you accomplish such a task? I can't find an official ruling anywhere.

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On the one hand, there is no formally defined action for this.
On the other hand, the skills chapter of the CRB is explicit that formally defined uses of skills are not an exhaustive list of what can be done with thise skills.
On the gripping hand, Ago of Ashes is one of the APs that was being written before the core rules were finished, and you'll encounter other bits of weirdness over the course of it.

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On the one hand, there is no formally defined action for this.
On the other hand, the skills chapter of the CRB is explicit that formally defined uses of skills are not an exhaustive list of what can be done with thise skills.
On the gripping hand, Ago of Ashes is one of the APs that was being written before the core rules were finished, and you'll encounter other bits of weirdness over the course of it.
Oh I didn't know the last part. Thanks!

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One of my (minor) pet peeves is that various bits of the game (APs, PFS scenarios, etc) basically allow nature checks to accomplish pretty much exactly what is covered by Animal Empathy (or the ability to speak with animals) via diplomacy.
Makes it very hard to decide HOW I should build my "wants to play nice with animals" character. Do I rely on Nature or do I also have to invest in Charisma and diplomacy? The answer varies, sometimes within the same AP (I was sometimes using diplomacy and sometimes using nature in different books of Extinction Curse with the same GM. Not sure if that was the AP or the GM changing his mind)

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One of my (minor) pet peeves is that various bits of the game (APs, PFS scenarios, etc) basically allow nature checks to accomplish pretty much exactly what is covered by Animal Empathy (or the ability to speak with animals) via diplomacy.
Makes it very hard to decide HOW I should build my "wants to play nice with animals" character. Do I rely on Nature or do I also have to invest in Charisma and diplomacy? The answer varies, sometimes within the same AP (I was sometimes using diplomacy and sometimes using nature in different books of Extinction Curse with the same GM. Not sure if that was the AP or the GM changing his mind)
Interesting. Just looking up the rules, it seems clear (at least in the CRB) that if you want to change the attitude of an animal, then you Make an Impression (which is Diplomacy; the druid has Wild Empathy which allows them to use that on animals.) If you want to have the animal do something for you, you use Command an Animal (which is nature.) Those two seem to be distinct enough for me to be two different skills.
But, I haven't read or played either Age of Ashes or The Extinction Curse to know if it's that way in the AP, or something your GM did.