Magic Items and given cantrips


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Was looking at the Ring of Minor arcana, which is pretty cool because it gives the character 3 extra cantrips ( I am playing a magus, so it would be 5 + Detect Magic, Mage hand and Ghost sound ).

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This rose-gold ring is adorned in the center by a somewhat ominous-looking horned skull. This ring gives you the power to cast the following innate arcane cantrips any number of times each day: detect magic, mage hand, and prestidigitation. Each is cast as a 1st-level spell. If you are an arcane spellcaster, these can instead be heightened to the level of your cantrips.

What caught my attention is that the item expliticly mentions that if the character is an arcane spellcaster, the cantrips can be instead be heightened to the level of my cantrips.

At first I thought this was by default for all given cantrips, unless said otherwise ( for example, the Aeon Stone "Dusty Rose Prism" ):

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Aeon Stone (Dusty Rose Prism)
Item 3
Source PFS Guide pg. 121
Price 50 gp
Usage worn
Access Member of the Pathfinder Society.
This aeon stone allows you to cast the 1st-level shield cantrip as an arcane innate spell, surrounding yourself in pink energy.

The resonant power increases the damage prevented by your aeon stone's shield spell from 5 to 10.

So, I wonder, what about items like Cloak of elvenkind ( he cloak allows you to cast the ghost sound cantrip as an arcane innate spell ), Messenger Ring ( lets you cast message as an arcane innate spell at will ), etc... ?

Sczarni

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The Aeon Stone calls out a level ("1st").

The other examples don't.

Coincidentally, this is the exact same example that helped me understand the difference.


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HumbleGamer wrote:


So, I wonder, what about items like Cloak of elvenkind ( he cloak allows you to cast the ghost sound cantrip as an arcane innate spell ), Messenger Ring ( lets you cast message as an arcane innate spell at will ), etc... ?
CRB p 302 wrote:
Innate cantrips are cast at will and automatically heightened as normal for cantrips (see Cantrips on page 300) unless otherwise specified.


Thank you both!

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