Confused with Formulas and Runes


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I know the crafting/upgrade rules are a bit dense. But I’m confused with Formulas and Runes

-Are Runes Formulas? Like, when a player picks up a Rune, is it an actual Rune? Or the formula of a Rune?

-Are Runes/Formulas consumables? Like once you use them to make/etch something. Is the formula/rune gone? Or can you keep using it?


Santobon wrote:
-Are Runes Formulas? Like, when a player picks up a Rune, is it an actual Rune? Or the formula of a Rune?

It is an actual rune. Rune formulas are formula items just like any other formula. You could reverse engineer the formula from the rune item, but will by default destroy the item in the process.

Santobon wrote:
-Are Runes/Formulas consumables? Like once you use them to make/etch something. Is the formula/rune gone? Or can you keep using it?

Formulas are not consumables. You can keep using formulas repeatedly. You do have to pay the material and time cost for the item for each one that you create.


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I find it useful to think of formulas as recipes.

When you want to make a casserole (rune, wand, etc.) you open up your recipe book (formula book) and then gather your ingredients.

When you are finished making it, the ingredients are all used up, but you still have the recipe (formula).


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Also, before you ask: yes, the crafting rules are intended to not provide much benefit over just buying the items. This is so that the GM doesn't have to adjust treasure rewards to account for a crafter in the party.


breithauptclan wrote:
Santobon wrote:
-Are Runes Formulas? Like, when a player picks up a Rune, is it an actual Rune? Or the formula of a Rune?

It is an actual rune. Rune formulas are formula items just like any other formula. You could reverse engineer the formula from the rune item, but will by default destroy the item in the process.

Santobon wrote:
-Are Runes/Formulas consumables? Like once you use them to make/etch something. Is the formula/rune gone? Or can you keep using it?
Formulas are not consumables. You can keep using formulas repeatedly. You do have to pay the material and time cost for the item for each one that you create.

So if a player gets there hand on a single Rune. Can etch they etch that rune onto other weapons/armor multiple times with the same rune they got?

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Santobon wrote:
breithauptclan wrote:
Santobon wrote:
-Are Runes Formulas? Like, when a player picks up a Rune, is it an actual Rune? Or the formula of a Rune?

It is an actual rune. Rune formulas are formula items just like any other formula. You could reverse engineer the formula from the rune item, but will by default destroy the item in the process.

Santobon wrote:
-Are Runes/Formulas consumables? Like once you use them to make/etch something. Is the formula/rune gone? Or can you keep using it?
Formulas are not consumables. You can keep using formulas repeatedly. You do have to pay the material and time cost for the item for each one that you create.
So if a player gets there hand on a single Rune. Can etch they etch that rune onto other weapons/armor multiple times with the same rune they got?

You'd need to transfer the Rune and pay the appropriate cost but it lets you retain the ones you already have at a far more reasonable price than simply selling/scrapping the existing equipment and starting over fresh but this does not allow you to duplicate them, for creation of wholly new ones you'd need to use the existing Craft/Etch Rune rules.


Santobon wrote:
So if a player gets there hand on a single Rune. Can etch they etch that rune onto other weapons/armor multiple times with the same rune they got?

No, the rune item can be moved from one place to another (weapon/armor/runestone as applicable), but not duplicated.

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