Would you go with an energy type (if so which), ghost touch, something else or not bother for wreath of blades?


Advice

Scarab Sages

I was looking at Q's wizard guide and they mentioned the wreath of blades spell. Its not bad but I'm not sure the benefit is worth the cost for the focuses.

Wreath of Blades
School abjuration; Level arcanist 5, bloodrager 4, magus 4, occultist 4, psychic 5, sorcerer 5, summoner 5, summoner (unchained) 5, witch 5, wizard 5
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V, S, F (four mithral daggers, each worth at least 502 gp each)
Range personal
Target you
Area 5-foot-radius emanation centered on you
Duration 1 round/level
Saving Throw Reflex half (special, see below)
Spell Resistance no (special, see below)

Description
The daggers serving as focus of this spell take on a deadly sharpness as they animate and spin around you, creating a 5-foot-radius emanation of spinning mithral blades that moves with you. Any creature that starts its turn within the area of the spinning blades takes 1d4 points of damage for every two caster levels (maximum 10d4 at 20th level) and the damage bypasses DR/silver.

Furthermore, the daggers ward off some attacks, in a way similar to the warding weapon spell. While subject to this spell, you do not provoke attacks of opportunity for casting spells, even from creatures with the Disruptive feat. Creatures with the Spellbreaker feat can easily bypass this defensive property, though they still take damage from the spell. Your casting (even failing to cast defensively) still provokes attacks of opportunity from creatures with that feat.

Lastly, the blades that serve as the focus for this spell can be enchanted for greater effect. When all of the blades share the same enhancement bonus and special weapon qualities, a creature that is damaged by this spell is also treated as if hit by one of these weapons. For example, if a 12th-level magus casts this spell using four +1 frost mithral daggers as focus, the damage dealt by the blades would be 6d4+1 plus 1d6 cold damage, as long as the daggers were commanded to be sheathed in ice. No matter the modifications made to the focus weapons, they must always be mithral daggers. No other type of weapons can serve as a focus for this spell.

Its not a bad spell but given I'd rather not be in 5 foot of enemies to begin with and your looking at a lot of money to enchant four mithril daggers for any extra benefits I'm not sure its really worth it.

What do people think is it not worth bothering with this spell due to the expensive components or is it worth it for certain situations and if so would you go with an energy type, ghost touch, something else, the basic mithril daggers for it?

Also I've read through this 5 times now and I still don't see what saving throw you'd be making. If anyone know's please feel free to tell me. For that matter I'm assuming this is a 5' radius i.e. the 8 squares around your own not just your own personal square or this gets a lot worse.


"Also I've read through this 5 times now and I still don't see what saving throw you'd be making."
- seem like when some1 start their turn in the area of the daggers he get a ref save for half.

---

" For that matter I'm assuming this is a 5' radius i.e. the 8 squares around your own not just your own personal square or this gets a lot worse."
- that is how i read it with the point that a bigger creature would have larger safe zone. 5 ft adjusted to his space(s). so a large creature would be the 12 squares around him.

---

"Its not a bad spell but given I'd rather not be in 5 foot of enemies to begin with and your looking at a lot of money to enchant four mithril daggers for any extra benefits I'm not sure its really worth it."

- As enchanting for even a +1 more damage will cost 2,000 gp X 4 = 8000 gp
and adding energy (which only add 1d6 to the whole damage) would add 8,000 X 4 = 32,0000 gp i think it's way to much for the amount of damage it adds. (not to mention you hope what ever you ward is not resistant to it\not a ghost etc). seem way to much to pay, specifically that paying just 500 gp more (32,500) would get you a metamagic rod of empower which would add a lot more to the overall damage (for 3 times per day, but how many times are you going to cast this spell anyway?). and can be used for other spells if you have them.
(hack getting a metamagic rod of extand for only 11,000 gp might be even more fun for the melee casters out there, like magus and bloodrager, double your pleasure double your fun!)

Scarab Sages

Much the same thoughts I had, even if you just go with the basic dagger its 2,008 gold for all four and it seems to me a wizard has better or at least more important things to spend money on.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32

Senko wrote:
Its not a bad spell but given I'd rather not be in 5 foot of enemies to begin with

It is a bad spell because you shouldn't be in a 5' group of enemies to begin with.

And if you somehow are, then you shouldn't use a 5th-level spell to enable you to cast without AOOs; you should instead (defensively) cast a lower-level spell to get out of there. For instance, L1 Vanish.

Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder First Edition / Advice / Would you go with an energy type (if so which), ghost touch, something else or not bother for wreath of blades? All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.