ACG classes and existing Archetypes


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Can a member of an ACG class use an existing Archetype from one of its Alternate Classes, so long as the class has all the components altered or swapped by the Archetype?

So for example; The Bloodrager has the Bloodrage ability (listed as functionally Rage for feats/spells etc) and Fast Movement, so could you apply the Urban Barbarian archetype to a Bloodrager character?

Sorry if this has come up before, I've had a look around but I see nothing.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

As far as we know, the ACG classes are now separate classes, so no, you could not use archetypes of antoher class.


Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Almost definitely no. I believe the developers stated parent classes will be removed from the Advanced Class Guide classes, so there will no longer be a direct connection to two classes from each.


Xethik wrote:
Almost definitely no. I believe the developers stated parent classes will be removed from the Advanced Class Guide classes, so there will no longer be a direct connection to two classes from each.

So they're going to let people multiclass into them and their base classes? I doubt that! I was thinking about how a Ninja can use Rogue Archetypes providing it has the parts swapped (Scout archetype is the most obvious), and that's a precedent for this kinda thing.

Of course, Paizo haven't ever released any archetypes for the Ninja, but they are going to release Archetypes in the ACG..


Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Actually, they stated exactly that. You can do Warpriest 1/Fighter 1/Cleric 1 if you wanted to. I wish I could find the article... It was on the Paizo blog a handful of weeks (4 maybe?) back.

Liberty's Edge

Here's the post in question.

To quote:

"In the playtest for the Advanced Class Guide, the new classes were called hybrid classes, since each is a mix of two parent classes. In the playtest, you could not take levels in either of the parent classes if you had levels in the hybrid class. In the final version, we removed this restriction."


Thanks for that Deadmanwalking. That post has some interesting info in it..

Liberty's Edge

You're very welcome. Happy to be of assistance. :)

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