Advice for Planar Binding?


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A thread recently raised from the depths made me think. The villain in one the campaigns I am playing is an outsider. Maybe then, it would be possible to prevent him from doing harm by locking him up using Planar Binding, especially since it seems to be turning into a race against him to prevent him to execute his evil plan.

However, this plans seems a little to straightforward to me. Yes, the spell itself can fail at several points but the odds of success are far from negligible, in which case, this evil outsider will be held, prevented from guiding his cronies while we wreck havock amongst them.
Am I missing something?

We aren't at the level where we can cast Greater Planar Binding, we'd have to find someone able to do so but we are at a level where powerful people that would be strongly negatively affected should the evil outsider accomplish his plan would listen to us.

Hence I turn to you, savvy people. Do you think Planar Binding is a doable way to suppress an outsider? If so, how would you go about it?
If not, how would you go about it?^^

[I am on purpose not giving too much details because I want to keep the discussion general given that I don't want to get spoilt, the campaign being rather known.]

Silver Crusade

I don't see why not off the top of my head. What level exactly? And do you have a wizard PC? If so, and you are level 11, you can take the arcane discovery for true name (if the outsider has less than 13 HD)

But why stop there? If their HD is low enough that you can bind them, why not force them to do your bidding? Bestow curse, sickened/shaken (if they aren't immune) and all manner of other debuffs make it stupid easy to force an outsider into a binding contract. Just include the line "Once completed, X, the bindee on this contract, will return willingly to this circle to negotiate another task".

Of course, it could be they are simply too high of HD, and or have a special protection against binding magic.

Note they cannot have the (Native) aspect.


The outsider is probably the end boss or the one just before. Therefore, I suspect it has a bucketload of HD.

We do not have in the party an arcane spellcaster anymore, the player hasn't showed up to a game in a long while. We'd have to acquire the means of this spellcasting through NPCs.

If some of you have played with this spell, either as players or as G.M., what are the pitfalls you could please warn me about?

Silver Crusade

the largest one is, that if It has SR, and you fail the check to overcome it the magic circle you have to use in conjunction with planar binding breaks and the creature goes free. This is a 1/day attempt.

The other is that planar binding is limited, you need greater planar binding for anything above 13 HD, and then you only get up to 18 HD unless you take specific things to boost this.

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