Behold the greatest of all itens from Grand Bazaar!

[Angel Hunter D]

Like I've said, the ball didn't need any rules text and we'd have been better off without it - because in that case there'd be no argument.

And as for accusations of not knowing how PFS runs, my 3 stars and having a VC run most of the games I played in would say otherwise. The item lists Hands and Usage - you have to use at least that many hands and use it that way if there's a roll of any kind involved. If the encounter is "play ball with some gnomes" you gotta use the hands. If you're playing hackey sack on your own and it has no mechanical effect, whatever - however no matter how much you build up that aspect of your ball usage it will never affect a check.

[Cori Marie]

If an encounter "is play ball with gnomes" it probably will have more detail on exactly what that entails, and thus provide you with your beloved framework. Outside of an encounter, you can use objects how you want.

[PossibleCabbage]

Legitimately they should just lock this thread. I think everything useful to be said about the ball has been said (and then some).

[Angel Hunter D]

PossibleCabbage wrote:

Legitimately they should just lock this thread. I think everything useful to be said about the ball has been said (and then some).

usually I hate when threads get locked, but I'm starting to see why they do it now and then.

[Keith Greer]

Shutting this thread down as it is no longer serving any purpose other than giving us moderators more work to do. PLEASE read the Community Guidelines before engaging on the forums. If you have any questions regarding anything you may wish to post, please ask before collectively tanking what could potentially be an informative and educational thread. Thanks!