How do Wild Order druids (and wizards) function in the Magaambya?


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Archives of Nethys wrote:
Becoming fully domesticated by the temptations of civilization is anathema to your order. (This doesn’t prevent you from buying and using processed goods or staying in a city for an adventure, but you can never come to rely on these conveniences or truly call such a place your permanent home.)

Given the aforementioned constraints, how would a wizard who opted for the order that grants the best shapeshifting powers function in the Magaambya? A scholar would rely on processed goods, and the students are encouraged to think of the campus as their home. This is especially pertinent if said character had a magi-biotech focus, looking to modify and create life.


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A scholar can exist outside of a library, and the Magaambya places a strong emphasis on ‘field work.’ Most Magaambyan mages are traveling the Mwangi Expanse, and many more are currently aiding on humanitarian missions up north in Avistan; they’re hardly huddled up in Nantambu. Staying in one place long enough to finish your early studies is not the same as settling down and betraying your oath to the wilds.

Heck, look at the shape of the AP; fully half of the books take place well beyond Nantambu, and even the ones set there leave the Magaambya’s halls.

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keftiu wrote:

A scholar can exist outside of a library, and the Magaambya places a strong emphasis on ‘field work.’ Most Magaambyan mages are traveling the Mwangi Expanse, and many more are currently aiding on humanitarian missions up north in Avistan; they’re hardly huddled up in Nantambu. Staying in one place long enough to finish your early studies is not the same as settling down and betraying your oath to the wilds.

Heck, look at the shape of the AP; fully half of the books take place well beyond Nantambu, and even the ones set there leave the Magaambya’s halls.

I agree with all of this.

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I actually kinda love the idea of a character who only uses their room as a place to store school materials and occasionally to sleep in when the rains last overnight; their normal preference is to use the Soaring Spire to camp out on the roof.

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They can come to the buildings to study and leave to go back to their resting place in the wilds. They just will not settle permanently in the city.


Ron Lundeen wrote:
keftiu wrote:

A scholar can exist outside of a library, and the Magaambya places a strong emphasis on ‘field work.’ Most Magaambyan mages are traveling the Mwangi Expanse, and many more are currently aiding on humanitarian missions up north in Avistan; they’re hardly huddled up in Nantambu. Staying in one place long enough to finish your early studies is not the same as settling down and betraying your oath to the wilds.

Heck, look at the shape of the AP; fully half of the books take place well beyond Nantambu, and even the ones set there leave the Magaambya’s halls.

I agree with all of this.

Fair enough. But what about labwork mid-career and later? To say nothing of utilizing and developing technology.


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AlgaeNymph wrote:
Ron Lundeen wrote:
keftiu wrote:

A scholar can exist outside of a library, and the Magaambya places a strong emphasis on ‘field work.’ Most Magaambyan mages are traveling the Mwangi Expanse, and many more are currently aiding on humanitarian missions up north in Avistan; they’re hardly huddled up in Nantambu. Staying in one place long enough to finish your early studies is not the same as settling down and betraying your oath to the wilds.

Heck, look at the shape of the AP; fully half of the books take place well beyond Nantambu, and even the ones set there leave the Magaambya’s halls.

I agree with all of this.
Fair enough. But what about labwork mid-career and later? To say nothing of utilizing and developing technology.

Nothing about druid anathemas prevents labwork or utilizing and inventing technolgy - though it’s worth underscoring that you do /magic/.

Liberty's Edge

You use natural tools as much as you can. This is enough IMO to not rely on processed goods.

You have not come to rely on processed goods when there is no other alternative.

The idea is not to become a domesticated Druid. Given all that was said in the above posts, I think it is easily avoidable in the Magaambya. Doubly so since the academy must have been designed to take these constraints into account.

After all, the PCs are not the first Wild Druids ever to attend and teach there.


keftiu wrote:
Nothing about druid anathemas prevents labwork or utilizing and inventing technology - though it’s worth underscoring that you do magic.

I'm a bit confused by that statement, mainly because I'm someone who sees magic as something that can be developed as a form of technology. But that's going on a tangent.

The Raven Black wrote:
You use natural tools as much as you can. This is enough IMO to not rely on processed goods.

And now this is raising the question of what a biomancer would use as tools, which is yet another tangent altogether. I may have to start another thread, or two...


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AlgaeNymph wrote:
The Raven Black wrote:
You use natural tools as much as you can. This is enough IMO to not rely on processed goods.
And now this is raising the question of what a biomancer would use as tools, which is yet another tangent altogether. I may have to start another thread, or two...

Some of the choices for Verdant Weapon (dagger, shears, sickle, etc.) can be used as tools as well as weapons.

Also, the Wild Order anathema shouldn't be viewed as "anti-tech" so much as "tech that doesn't require large-scale industry." Even metalworking, for example wootz steel, that is performed by an individual using small quantities (instead of mining/smelting involving hundreds of pounds of ore) would probably be considered as not "becoming fully domesticated by the temptations of civilization."


It feels like the angle the Wild Druid would be at magic school for is "how can civilization serve or exist in harmony with the wild places". Your Magaambya Wild Druid is not the most extreme member of the Wild Order, but you knew that when you made that character to go to school there.

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