Ring of Wizardry III and Arcane Sense Feat

[Athris of the Nine Dragons]

Question: can a player with the arcane sense feat use a ring of wizardry III. If yes, what level spells become available to them?

[HammerJack]

You mean they ONLY have the arcane sense feat?

The ring of wizardry says: "It does nothing unless you have a spellcasting class feature with the arcane tradition."

Having Arcane Sense is not having a spellcastimg class feature. The ring does nothing.

[Athris of the Nine Dragons]

HammerJack wrote:

You mean they ONLY have the arcane sense feat?

The ring of wizardry says: "It does nothing unless you have a spellcasting class feature with the arcane tradition."

Having Arcane Sense is not having a spellcastimg class feature. The ring does nothing.

Read the feat arcane sense carefully

[Athris of the Nine Dragons]

HammerJack wrote:

You mean they ONLY have the arcane sense feat?

The ring of wizardry says: "It does nothing unless you have a spellcasting class feature with the arcane tradition."

Having Arcane Sense is not having a spellcastimg class feature. The ring does nothing.

Read the feat arcane sense carefully...

Your study of magic allows you to instinctively sense its presence. You can cast 1st-level detect magic at will as an arcane innate spell. If you’re a master in Arcana, the spell is heightened to 3rd level; if you’re legendary, it is heightened to 4th level.

[Jared Walter 356]

Athris of the Nine Dragons wrote:

HammerJack wrote:

You mean they ONLY have the arcane sense feat?

The ring of wizardry says: "It does nothing unless you have a spellcasting class feature with the arcane tradition."

Having Arcane Sense is not having a spellcastimg class feature. The ring does nothing.

Read the feat arcane sense carefully...

Your study of magic allows you to instinctively sense its presence. You can cast 1st-level detect magic at will as an arcane innate spell. If you’re a master in Arcana, the spell is heightened to 3rd level; if you’re legendary, it is heightened to 4th level.

Innate spells do not grant you access to the spellcaster class feature:

Source Core Rulebook pg. 302 2.0
Certain spells are natural to your character, typically coming from your ancestry or a magic item rather than your class. You can cast your innate spells even if you aren't a member of a spellcasting class.

Ring of wizardry:
This ring is made from the purest platinum and is covered in esoteric arcane symbols. It does nothing unless you have a spellcasting class feature with the arcane tradition.

Gaining an arcane innate spell does not give you access to the spellcasting class feature, so the ring of wizardry does nothing for you.

[Gortle]

But how do you learn spells? You don't have the Spell Repertoire class feature. It seems like maybe buy a spell book and learn a spell might be possible. But you still need a spellcasting class feature. I'm not sure if you have that.

[Nefreet]

You only have access to the "Cast a Spell" activity.

[HammerJack]

Yes, I did read Arcane Sense. It does not grant the necessary class feature.

[Aw3som3-117]

Yep. Even if Arcane sense somehow gave you more than just an innate spell, which it doesn't, Ring of Wizardry still wouldn't work. It's very specific in it's language. "It does nothing unless you have a spellcasting class feature with the arcane tradition." An item is not a class feature.

[breithauptclan]

Definitely a Skill Feat doesn't qualify as a Class Feature.

Would a spellcasting archetype also allow you to use the Ring of Wizardry? Technically you only have a spellcasting class feat, not a spellcasting class feature.

NVM, found it.

Spellcasting Archetypes

Quote:

the basic spellcasting feat counts as having a spellcasting class feature.

[Aw3som3-117]

Wait, did I say item? I meant skill feat, lol
Anyway, I never really thought of the spellcasting multiclass archetypes. It's cool that they go out of their way to say that. It makes a lot of sense that they should.