Heirloom Weapon into Sentinel


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I tried searching for this, as there seems to be many threads about heirloom weapon but I couldn't find precisely what I wanted to know... The consensus on the closest one I could find was that you could select heirloom weapon trait and then select weapon focus based on that trait. I thought I should confirm that is actually the case, and if so could I then use the weapon focus to qualify for the Sentinel prestige class?

For example, heirloom weapon trait to get my father's longbow, then weapon focus longbow, then a level in the Sentinel Class (Erastil Deity)?

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Snorelord wrote:

I tried searching for this, as there seems to be many threads about heirloom weapon but I couldn't find precisely what I wanted to know... The consensus on the closest one I could find was that you could select heirloom weapon trait and then select weapon focus based on that trait. I thought I should confirm that is actually the case, and if so could I then use the weapon focus to qualify for the Sentinel prestige class?

For example, heirloom weapon trait to get my father's longbow, then weapon focus longbow, then a level in the Sentinel Class (Erastil Deity)?

You are referring to the Heirloom Weapon trait?
Heirloom Weapon wrote:

Source Adventurer's Armory pg. 30

Category Equipment
You carry a non-masterwork simple or martial weapon that has been passed down from generation to generation in your family (pay the standard gp cost for the weapon). When you select this trait, choose one of the following benefits: proficiency with that specific weapon, a +1 trait bonus on attacks of opportunity with that specific weapon, or a +2 trait bonus on one kind of combat maneuver when using that specific weapon.

I believe the general reading of this trait is you only gain proficiency with that specific long bow, which means you probably can't use it to qualify for the Sentinel prestige class: You could probably take Weapon Focus, but it would only apply to one specific long bow and not long bows in general.

This is very much a 'ask your GM' sort of thing...


I was afraid that would be the case. Can anyone else present an argument to the contrary?

(Shamelessly hoping we are wrong here and someone will be able to tell us so, because I want it to work)

Liberty's Edge

Consider this: even if the GM allows it, you will forever be dependent on that weapon. If it is destroyed, the weapon proficiency feat stop working, and that makes the prestige class invalid.

What is your base class? One level as a cleric of Erastyl will give you proficiency in longbows, as it is his favored weapon. Weapon focus requires a BAB of +1, so you would be able to take it from level 2 onward.


That's a good point. Alright, thank you. I don't have a class, I'm just building characters for 1e for fun.


Snorelord wrote:

I tried searching for this, as there seems to be many threads about heirloom weapon but I couldn't find precisely what I wanted to know... The consensus on the closest one I could find was that you could select heirloom weapon trait and then select weapon focus based on that trait. I thought I should confirm that is actually the case, and if so could I then use the weapon focus to qualify for the Sentinel prestige class?

For example, heirloom weapon trait to get my father's longbow, then weapon focus longbow, then a level in the Sentinel Class (Erastil Deity)?

Could you describe the build you're trying to achieve that way? I can't think of any Sentinel of Erastil builds I'd ever roll up that don't start with longbow proficiency.

@ Taja: It could be that OP is thinking of the old version of Heirloom, where the heirloom weapon had a free masterwork upgrade, granted "considered proficient," and had a +1 trait to hit.


Snorelord wrote:
For example, heirloom weapon trait to get my father's longbow, then weapon focus longbow, then a level in the Sentinel Class (Erastil Deity)?

Weapon Focus requires you to select "one type of weapon", and you need proficiency with the selection. Heirloom Weapon makes you proficient with a single e.g. longbow, but not with the weapon type longbow, and therefore, the trait doesn't make you qualify for the feat.

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