Spiritual Weapon Strikes

[yarrchives]

Spiritual Weapon says the Strikes you make with it are melee spell attacks so you would roll with your spellcasting ability. But what does this line mean for it?

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Despite making a spell attack, the spiritual weapon is a weapon for purposes of triggers, resistances, and so forth.

I'm looking to see how this works with the Battle Oracle's curse. It doesn't make the spell attack double as a weapon attack, does it? Same for counting as weapon damage? And is the player making the Strike or the weapon? I think this is relevant to suspended the AC penalty.

[Gortle]

That is just if the defender has any resistances or abilities. All its saying is to treat it as per normal. So the weapon can be blocked, dodged or resisted just like another

Because Spiritual Weapon uses the term Strike to describe its attack, it counts for relieving your Battle Oracle curse. As that also cares about Strikes.

Casting Spiritual Weapon is not actually an attack, it causes an immediate attack and sets you up to do more attacks.

But no you don't get any extra damage from the Oracular Battle curse. Because Spiritual Weapon says "No other statistics or traits of the weapon apply". So its not really a sword or an axe, its a simulated one.

[yarrchives]

That makes sense for the specific stipulation. I assume it would've simply stated it counts as a weapon attack if it actually did.

Pretty neat for the Strikes too.

[okkappa]

Spiritual weapons

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The weapon’s Strikes are melee spell attacks. Regardless of its appearance, the weapon deals force damage equal to 1d8 plus your spellcasting ability modifier. You can deal damage of the type normally dealt by the weapon instead of force damage (or any of the available damage types for a versatile weapon). No other statistics or traits of the weapon apply, and even a ranged weapon attacks adjacent creatures only. Despite making a spell attack, the spiritual weapon is a weapon for purposes of triggers, resistances, and so forth.

The weapon doesn’t take up space, grant flanking, or have any other attributes a creature would. The weapon can’t make any attack other than its Strike, and feats or spells that affect weapons do not apply to it.

Oracle Curse

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Moderate Curse The strain of conflict wears upon your body, even though you gain vitality from it. Making a Strike reduces the penalty from your minor curse to –1 rather than suspending it entirely. You gain a +2 status bonus to weapon and unarmed damage rolls. ..

Oracle curse is Class Features. Class Features are feats.

So sadly it won't work.

[Castilliano]

Where does the CRB say Class Features are feats?

Sincere question, and now I'm wondering what can of worms that may open.
I think for Spiritual Weapon, the point is more that it plays out like a weapon on the battlefield, not that it carries the caster's Weapon Specialization (et al), though I can see an argument there. :O