Diego Rossi
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MrCharisma wrote:Yeah, those are the FAQ entries. Where are the ACTUAL rules written?
The starting rules are the limits of stacking effects.
Then there is a smattering of pieces of rules in several places: the actual spell description (and most Ex and Su abilities refer to the spells), the Polymorph and Transmutation School description, and so on.
The FAQs unify, expand and clarify them.
| MrCharisma |
It's also totally fine to change the rules for your home games as you see fit.
If you want to allow more size-stacking then go for it. Just be aware that it will change the balance of the game, and make sure your players are aware of any changes and the options available to them.
(Assuming you're the GM of course)
Belafon
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MrCharisma wrote:Yeah, those are the FAQ entries. Where are the ACTUAL rules written?
Core Rulebook chapter 4 (bonuses or penalties to Fly and Stealth skills based on size)
Core Rulebook pages 178-179 (modifiers to attack rolls and AC based on size)
Core Rulebook pages 198-199 (size modifiers also apply to CMB and CMD)
Core Rulebook pages 211-212 (covers what happens if you are affected by a polymorph spell)
Boy, it sure would be nice if that was all collated somewhere.
| The Tage |
It's also totally fine to change the rules for your home games as you see fit.
If you want to allow more size-stacking then go for it. Just be aware that it will change the balance of the game, and make sure your players are aware of any changes and the options available to them.
(Assuming you're the GM of course)
First, thanks all for responding.
Second, my group is a stickler for the rules. Until something is in an official errata then it is just the designer's thoughts and not an actual rule.
That being said, I found the latest printing of the core rulebook and looked at page 212 (thanks Belafon) and found the rule I needed. It states: In addition, other spells that change your size have no effect on you while you are under the effects of a polymorph spell.
Again, thanks for the speedy responses!
Diego Rossi
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1) A FAQ is an offical errata for Paizo.
If you look at the second thread in the Rule Question forum, it is called [url=https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uig0?Pathfinder-Rules-Questions-Guidelines]Pathfinder Rules Questions Guidelines
and contain the following text:
How the FAQ System Works
Aspects of the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game may be confusing or unclear, and the FAQ system provides GMs/players with official answers from our designers. However, it is not intended to provide answers to niche, situational questions that are uncommonly found at the gaming table. Paizo firmly believes that it is the role of GMs to issue rulings in respect to unusual characters or encounters.
2) Note that you can't stack two size changes that are generated by a non-polymorph effect for several reasons:
a) the size changes generally refer to a spell that determines the effects of the size change. All the spells that give a size increase or decrease have a piece of text that says that you can't stack multiple size increases or multiple size decreases;
b) even if you find an ability that lacks that piece of text, Pathfinder rules say:
"Stacking: Stacking refers to the act of adding together bonuses or penalties that apply to one particular check or statistic. Generally speaking, most bonuses of the same type do not stack. Instead, only the highest bonus applies. Most penalties do stack, meaning that their values are added together. Penalties and bonuses generally stack with one another, meaning that the penalties might negate or exceed part or all of the bonuses, and vice versa. (CRB, page 12)"
The effects of a size change are a size bonus, so they don't stack with other size bonuses.
| avr |
FAQ is how Paizo has issued a fair bit of errata in the past, either before a new printing of the book is issued, or when they don't want to change the text in the book. That it's called a FAQ and not errata irritated many - but that's just the way they did things.
For PF2 they don't seem to be issuing FAQs at all, just actual errata and not a lot of that.