so I am player and have a dm working on a homebrew campaign and I'm having problems with the dm. So here is the issues I'm having I'm making a druid with two archetypes the (Bloodminger) and the (wild whisperer) the first archetype replaces the wildshape ability while the second archetype gives it back to you at 4th level. Do these archetypes work together???
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so I am player and have a dm working on a homebrew campaign and I'm having problems with the dm. So here is the issues I'm having I'm making a druid with two archetypes the (Bloodminger) and the (wild whisperer) the first archetype replaces the wildshape ability while the second archetype gives it back to you at 4th level. Do these archetypes work together???
You've wandered into the organized play geeks. You probably want the rules questions geeks over there. Don't be surprised if your post gets moved. Brace for impact....
But your DM is right, both in RAW (rules as written) and intent. Selling a power twice (or well, one and a half times) to get two different things from archetypes is exactly why you can't have two archetypes modifying the same ability. What you have is functionally getting something for something and then trading something you no longer have for something else. . Archetypes are supposed to exchange something for something.
Bloodline mingler
This replaces the druid’s nature bond and the wild shape class features.
Wild Shape (Ex)
At 4th level, a wild whisperer gains the wild shape ability, but she never gains access to any forms beyond Small and Medium animal forms, as beast shape I.
This ability alters wild shape.
BNW: So you're basically selling half your wildshape to gain investigator abilities. Which you can't do because you already traded it away for the bloodline mingler.